Dual Boot Windows/OS X Intel Machine

[govtcheez75]

Steb Jobs just announced that the computer he's using to make the Keynote speech from (and running OS X) is a Intel Pentium 4 machine. That would be pretty cool if they released this "secret backup" OS to the public, so they can run OS X in their Intel machines as well.

 

[n0cmonkey]

I'd bet that Apple machines would use apple specific firmware.

 

[FrustratedUser]

I am not seeing this in the future. Apple allowed clones in the early/mid 90's but shut it down because the clones were not up to their standard.

 

[moemac8]

One thing I don't understand. IBM had the first PC made to go up against Apple. Compaq reversed engineered IBM's rom and produced a clone that was IBM compatible. What keeps a company from doing the same thing with Apples rom and making motherboards that will dual boot?? If you say Apple will sue them, well then how did Compaq get away with it all those years ago?? You would have thought that IBM would have slammed them with a lawsuit.

 

[moemac8]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
I am not seeing this in the future. Apple allowed clones in the early/mid 90's but shut it down because the clones were not up to their standard.

I actually think that the clones were better and cheaper, and cutting too much into Apples Market share and that is why they axed them.

When you think about it, A Mac is all common 3rd party parts shoved into a pretty case. Ok , some of their parts are unique to Apple. But mainly people buy them for the OS X experience. I wonder if they could make it as a software company ala Microsoft.

 

[omissible]

After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."
However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac."

http://news.com.com/Apple+throws+the+sw...100-7341_3-5733756.html?tag=macintouch

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: moemac8

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
I am not seeing this in the future. Apple allowed clones in the early/mid 90's but shut it down because the clones were not up to their standard.

I actually think that the clones were better and cheaper, and cutting too much into Apples Market share and that is why they axed them.

When you think about it, A Mac is all common 3rd party parts shoved into a pretty case. Ok , some of their parts are unique to Apple. But mainly people buy them for the OS X experience. I wonder if they could make it as a software company ala Microsoft.

I bet they could but what is the point? Apple has always focused on design, innovation and ease of use for the n00b. They never made money selling just the OS so why should they start now.

I know you are goint to post 'But Windows is just as easy/easier to use.... bla...bla'. I look in my rear view window and see how superior Apple was back in late 80's to mid 90's. Using a PC back then was horrble for my productivity.

 

[JDCentral]

There will probably be some sort of DRM-type support in the Intel-based macs, so that Apple can get an equivalent level of 'stability' on the Intel-side of things (ie - they only have to deal with THEIR hardware). I'm assuming you will only be able to run OS X on computers manufactured by Apple, or maybe 'apple authorized retailers' or something.

Also... OS X has been running on x86 since the beginning... now they're just 'officially' going to release it.

 

[hopejr]

you will be able to dual boot Windows and OS X according to the article linked above. I'm gonna do that, but only for compatibility reasons. I won't give Windows much room, and I will hardly ever boot it.

 

[SnowBoarder9455]

now that its known the developer release can run on standard x86 machines, does the idea of dual boot on non-Apple x86 machines look more possible? Taking into consideration the way hackers break through copy protection like its nothing, i have a feeling it will be do-able soon after the release.

Hypothetically if i found a copy of the developer edition sitting on my desk, and I wanted to run it dual boot with XP Pro, how would I do this?

 

[drag]

One of the possible reasons that I've heard about Apple switching to Intel is because Intel's standardizing DRM protections around it's chips. That way Apple will only have to deal with one DRM protection sceme when they begin selling movies and shows online. Like iFlick or iFilm or whatever. That way when they can sell the same media to Windows users and OS X users and not have to worry about conflicting media protections.

But thats just pure hearsay. It has no basis in reality, just speculation.


On the other hand I think that it's pretty likely that Both future versions of Windows and OS X will use DRM-style protections to dictate what computers you can and can't install it on. In all likelyhood you'd probably have to buy a Apple computer with OS X on it, then install Windows on it if you want to dual boot, instead of just getting a copy of OS X and installing it on your current machine.

 

[XBoxLPU]

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/06/20050608191153.shtml

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/06/20050608191153.shtml

That's a development machine.