Dual Athon-MP or Pentium 4 HT or AMD64?

[BehindEnemyLines]

I'm wondering if you take the LOWEST speed (with the exception that the Dual Athlon must be at least 1600) of each CPU, then which one would perform BEST for video encoding (mostly MPEG2) and video capturing? Gaming is not an important factor since I never play games. The reason I want the lowest for each is because of my budget.

 

[Zebo]

Depends which encoding software you use between A64 and P4HT..definity don't get Athlon MP..dated and slow.

Because of price I'd recommend a A642800 with chaintech VNF3-250 for $200 combo.


Between 2.8C and A642800

AMD wins
Codecs: xVID
Consumer programs: Ulead VideoStudio 4,5,6 and 7. Roxio videowave 4,5,6 and 7. Pinnacle studio 7 and older.
Mid range video edition: Adobe Premiere 6.5 and older. Ulead MediaStudio Pro 5, 6, 6.5 and 7
MPEG2 Encoders: Canopus procoder, Ligos, bbMPEG.
DVD transcoding: DVD2AVI, VirtualDubMod
Freeware: VirtualDub.
Streaming: Quicktime.

Intel wins
Codecs: DivX 5.1.1
Consumer programs: Pinnacle Studio 9 and 8.
Mid range video edition: Adobe Premiere 7 and newer
MPEG2 encoders: TMPGEnc, mainconcept
DVD transcoding: XMPEG, FlaskMPEG
Streaming: Windows media 9.




Edit: you should always buy the lowest regaurdless of budget and turn a tortise into a hare by overclocking

Edit2: another consideration is memory. You can get away with one stick with the A64 without loosing any performance. If you buy the p4 you must use two sticks or else suffer big time. Using two sticks will cost a bit more at same MB.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

It'll be used mainly used for converting my DV/VHS to MPEG2 for burning on DVD-R using Cinemacraft Encoder (gives me better quality and much faster than TMPGenc). And for occasional DivX to DVD MPEG2 using DVD2SVCD. I was thinking of the P4 HT but the AMD64 would future-proof until more 64bits apps come out. I was thinking whether the HT will help in encoding to MPEG2. I'm not sure the difference between encode and transcode???

If I want to run multiple applications concurrently while encoding video, which CPU is a better choice? If the margin between P4HT and AMD64 isn't that much. then wouldn't the AMD be better? My current Athlon-XP 1800+ takes way too long for video editing.

Where did you find that A64 & Chaintech combos?

 

[Mingon]

I endcoded on a p4 3.0ghz system and a dual mp setup with 2 x mobile chips at 2.266ghz. The p4 could hit 45fps the athlons around 40. BUT the athlon machine could run 2 instances at the same speed so could manage effectively 80fps

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Originally posted by: Mingon
I endcoded on a p4 3.0ghz system and a dual mp setup with 2 x mobile chips at 2.266ghz. The p4 could hit 45fps the athlons around 40. BUT the athlon machine could run 2 instances at the same speed so could manage effectively 80fps

I notice that most video encoding software can multiple instances by utilizing two CPU. That is why I was thinking the HT or Athlon-MP might be a good candidate since I want to use my computer while encoding (it would be my only one since this old one will be given someone else). Those two might be better for encoding and running multi-applications (browser, music, etcc...).

But the A64 might beat both of them (even if it doesn't and the margin is within a few minutes), then I would think the A64 is better. And the A64 might run quieter because Cool 'n Quiet. Anyone with any comment?

How are you able to run dual Mobile Athlon XP when there's not such thing as mobile athlon-mp (you would need to do some modding on both chip)? And what motherboard?

 

[aka1nas]

I believe(mingon can verify as I am only running Tbreds in SMP) that the mobile bartons already have the other SMP L5 bridge connected, but if not it is trivial to do so. The Iwill MPX2 is probably the best OCing 760MPX board if you can find a used one, though the MSI k7d and the ASUS MPX boards are nice too. I would suggest going A64 though as it is getting pretty hard to recommend a dual athlon rig unless you are re-using most of the parts from a previous rig (I had PC2100 RAM and a pair of 1700+ Tbred Bs already when I decided to go dual, so it was easier to justify).

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Now that you mentioned, I might sell my current setup (ECSK7S5A Pro 5 + 1800, sound card, etcc...) for a couple bucks to help for buy for the new one. I'm currently in a fork as to speak.

The A64 seems like a good choice, no fuss, easy, and quick. Anyone know where I can a good deal or combo for the mobo and the A64 (cheapest when possible)?

 

[clarkey01]

Yeah you want a celeron........

lol.


A64 over the MP'S and P4C, but maybe its me But I would have said P4C ? but if zebo says A64 he must be right.

 

[Mik3y]

latest generation a64's are basically on par with the p4's at encoding and decoding, but since you get more bang out of your buck with the a64 and better overall performance vs a P4, then my vote goes towards the athlon 64.

 

[carlosd]

You can't go wrong with an A64.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: carlosd
You can't go wrong with an A64.

such beautiful words....

 

[DetroitSportsFan]

It'll be used mainly used for converting my DV/VHS to MPEG2 for burning on DVD-R using Cinemacraft Encoder (gives me better quality and much faster than TMPGenc).

What version of Cinemacraft Encoder are you using? I've used both programs .... although I believe my CinemaCraft may be outdated and I've always liked TMPGenc. However, I'm more than interested in better quality/faster conversion. A little off topic, but I wouldn't mind knowing either .........