I had a very kind DTV employee email me his employee number. I called DTV today and it went very smooth. $26.70 with tax delivered to my door. Free professional instalation , dish , reciever , remote. Optical out and digital 5.1 if you have the decoder amp. (But the CSR told me that it is "mono" 5.1 what ever that is. They say that the S-Video cable is included but not the optical out cable. (Optical outs are $10.00 at Sears. It should be here in 2 to 3 days and they will install it on February 12th. in the morning. The free install includes up to 100 feet of coax and 25 feet of phone line. I have to sign up for 1 month of the $31.99 and after that I will probably go to the $21.99 per month deal. When the installers arrrive they assess the location. If there are major obstructions in the way, they will inform you. Once the Dish is installed, you are on the hook. You cannot return it. If the installers eyeball the situation and feel it wont work out, you have 30 days to return the package for a full refund. After 30 days you will be charged $200 if you do not activate for at least the 1 month. I understand that out west that the dish has to point in a southwest direction. Thanks again to the gracious employee who took the time to email me. Hope this answers any questions anyone has.
gypsyman