DSLReports: Verizon purges most unlimited plans, begins throttling remaining

[openwheel]

We don't allow root on our devices. And we've started shifting everything to iPhone. So we only have about 100 android devices left.



And you'd be blocked from mailbox access on our MDM automatically. The only way I could imagine getting around that at this point would be to have complete control of the MDM with no outside audit of the MDM server.

I don't need to worry about MDM, corporate policies or even an IT department. I get whatever phone/plan/insurance I want and employer pays for it. My account and 100% reimbursable. Part of the negotiation when I was hired. Funny thing is, my email/data is still more secure than those who hold an actual corporate phone.

 

[Red Storm]

I don't need to worry about MDM, corporate policies or even an IT department. I get whatever phone/plan I want and employer pays for it. My account and 100% reimbursable. Part of the negotiation when I was hired. Funny thing is, my email/data is still more secure than those who hold an actual corporate phone.

It's nice to have that (I had it with my last employer), but at some places you have more strict polices in the name of security/asset control/etc. and so rooting or jailbreaking is a big no no. The problem with your example is that while you may be knowledgeable enough to keep your phone secure, another employee might not be and smart companies should not be relying on their end users to apply security policies.

 

[TuxDave]

I had to abandon both our AT&T unlimited plans. We never came anywhere near it and T-mobile was just so much cheaper.

 

[bearxor]

I don't need to worry about MDM, corporate policies or even an IT department. I get whatever phone/plan/insurance I want and employer pays for it. My account and 100% reimbursable. Part of the negotiation when I was hired. Funny thing is, my email/data is still more secure than those who hold an actual corporate phone.

Sure, you have more control over your device. Good for you.

No one has that much control over their device, even their personal devices, at my company.

You want your corporate email on your phone? You're registering it with the MDM system. Period.

I got around this a while with an application called Inbox Pro. It basically pulled all mail through the webmail interface. But no push on iOS, of course. If we noticed you using an app like that on Android, we'd probably just turn off OWA access for your mailbox.

 

[Chapbass]

Sure, you have more control over your device. Good for you.

No one has that much control over their device, even their personal devices, at my company.

You want your corporate email on your phone? You're registering it with the MDM system. Period.

I got around this a while with an application called Inbox Pro. It basically pulled all mail through the webmail interface. But no push on iOS, of course. If we noticed you using an app like that on Android, we'd probably just turn off OWA access for your mailbox.

Do you and I work for the same company? We don't, but it sure sounds like we do

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I don't need to worry about MDM, corporate policies or even an IT department. I get whatever phone/plan/insurance I want and employer pays for it. My account and 100% reimbursable. Part of the negotiation when I was hired. Funny thing is, my email/data is still more secure than those who hold an actual corporate phone.

You're more the exception than the rule I'd say.

 

[bearxor]

Do you and I work for the same company? We don't, but it sure sounds like we do

It's amazing isn't it?

All it takes is for one company to publicly post a policy. Then, if someone else wants to create a similar policy, they do a search to see what someone else has done and base their policy off that. So they all end up being quite similar.

 

[boomhower]

I'm still there with two lines. I have a third I use for upgrading my main line. They'll have to force me off of it.

 

[Bateluer]

Some bad news, but it pertains to this thread as well so I'm not creating a new thread.

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/24/verizon-network-optimization-throttling-unlimited-lte/

On October 1, Verizon will expand its existing Network Optimization policy to include unlimited data customers who use 4G LTE devices and “have fulfilled their minimum contract term.” That “optimization” occurs when an unlimited data customer meets specific criteria and hops onto a cell site that is experiencing high demand. This is only a temporary reduction, not a billing cycle throttle. Once that customer leaves the cell site under stress, their connection should return to normal.

In order to see reduced speeds, you have to be a customer that meets all of the criteria below (again, ALL of the criteria):

- Top 5% of data users (you use 4.7GB of data per month or more)
- Enrolled on an unlimited data plan or feature
- Have fulfilled their minimum contract term
- Are attempting to use data on a cell site that is experiencing high demand

According to Verizon’s Network Optimization page, as of March 2014, you qualify as being in the top 5% if you use 4.7GB of data or more per month. That could fluctuate over time, though we aren’t sure how often Verizon updates this number.

If you are worried that you may be impacted by Network Optimization, Verizon has options for you, though you you may not love them:

- Migrate to a MORE Everything plan or usage based data feature
- Use your device’s Wi-Fi options
- Use VZW tools to track and manage data usage:
- View real-time data use information on My Verizon and My Verizon Mobile
- Predict data needs by using Verizon’s Data Calculator
- Install the Data Usage Widget (available on most smartphones)
- Dial #DATA from the device to receive a text with data use information

 

[s44]

FCC lawsuit coming in...

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I thought they were actively prevented from doing this due to their band whatever requirements.

 

[Bateluer]

FCC lawsuit coming in...

Verizon's lobbying on Capitol Hill has all but neutered the FCC's ability to do anything.

 

[RockinZ28]

Can't believe 4.7gb is top 5%. Used twice that in about an hour today.

 

[jpiniero]

Can't believe 4.7gb is top 5%. Used twice that in about an hour today.

On your phone?

 

[Bateluer]

Can't believe 4.7gb is top 5%. Used twice that in about an hour today.

So you're going to be throttled down to 1X speeds very shortly.

 

[RockinZ28]

On your phone?

Yep. Found myself in a particularly good spot today, pulling 7mb/s. Do my large downloads at job sites or driving about.

So you're going to be throttled down to 1X speeds very shortly.

Lies. Not in L.A. anymore, how congested can IN towers be? I'll be on contract again once the Note 4 comes out and I transfer my upgrade to my wife's 2gb line.

 

[Lyfer]

Dunno how you guys can use so much data. Now a days I find it hard not to find WiFi as the only time I'm not connected is on my daily commute.

 

[openwheel]

Some bad news, but it pertains to this thread as well so I'm not creating a new thread.

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/24/verizon-network-optimization-throttling-unlimited-lte/

So people on unlimited data but still under contract are not affected? Sounds odd but I guess I won't be affected then since I still got 1.5 year left on my contract.

 

[Red Storm]

So people on unlimited data but still under contract are not affected? Sounds odd but I guess I won't be affected then since I still got 1.5 year left on my contract.

Curious, how are you unlimited on contract?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Curious, how are you unlimited on contract?

I'm still unlimited on contract. They removed the ability to grandfather unlimited easily late september/october or so two years ago. It hasn't been two years yet.

EDIT: Wait, 1.5 years left? Now THAT doesn't make any sense.

 

[ponyo]

So basically starting in October, Verizon unlimited is no longer unlimited and capped at ~5gb like the AT&T unlimited. Weak. Ebay people who bought VZ unlimited are screwed.

 

[Red Storm]

So basically starting in October, Verizon unlimited is no longer unlimited and capped at ~5gb like the AT&T unlimited. Weak. Ebay people who bought VZ unlimited are screwed.

Yep, I remember my friend who had AT&T would tell me he had unlimited data too, and I would reply with "No, I have unlimited on Verizon, you have ~5GB and then throttle."

It was gonna happen eventually, will be interesting to see if people move on to other carriers or they just stay on Verizon.

 

[openwheel]

Curious, how are you unlimited on contract?

There are still ways to upgrade phone without losing unlimited data. Check Howard Forum or Android Central. Lots of threads on this.

 

[openwheel]

If history tells me anything, I wonder if Verizon will get hands slapped when time comes. Or has Verizon already successfully lobbied and changed the game. Also I wonder if this only applies to band 13. It will be interesting to experiment. I kept a RAZR M for this purpose knowing it is likely the best phone stuck in band 13.

 

[Anubis]

Dunno how you guys can use so much data. Now a days I find it hard not to find WiFi as the only time I'm not connected is on my daily commute.

streaming music at work 30+ hours will eat 3+ GB by itself, its VERY easy to hit 5 when you add in things like email, FB, YT and whatever

all the people who are in the hundreds of GBs from their phone are tethering or running torrents from their phone

and before anyone asks, some of us (myself included) cant get on wifi because work blocks everything that streams music