dsl router situation

[DannyLove]

as many here ive noticed a little confusion in having dsl service and routing to other computers. I'm planning on ordering dsl from pacbell since there nearest server is 3 blocks down the street. I have a pc and my roommate has a mac. the basic dsl service only gives me 1 dynamic ip and 1 modem. "In theory" buying a router will allow the MAC comp to have interet access, correct? Does it depend on what kind of router it has to be, anyone know of these different types. Thanks...


Danny

 

[SMKungPao]

This is how I would share the connection:

1 nic on pc
1 nic on mac
1 hub
winproxy 3.0
Set the pc so it has the ip. Install winproxy 3.0. Install the nic on pc. The dsl connection is connected to the dsl modem. From the nic, use crossover cat5 to the uplink on the hub. From port 2, connected cat5 to the Mac.

 

[DannyLove]

umm, i've never heard of that such possibility. Here's a question though. In your suggestion u want the mac to be linked to the hub? this hub is a 10 base so would the connection be just as fast as would the pc one?

Danny

 

[Sukhoi]

Why not just drop the hub and use a crossover cable between the computers?

Also, it shouldn't matter if it's only a 10 Mb hub since DSL isn't even that fast.

But if you're doing file transfers between the PC and Mac too (not sure if you can do that though ), I'd get a 4 port router since it has a built in 10/100 switch.

 

[SMKungPao]

Yes, you can drop the hub, but don't you use straight through cables instead?

 

[Tsaico]

Hate to tell you all, but Macs use the appletalk/ethertalk(Apple File protocol) protocols and the most common for PC's is the SMB. The two are not compatiple. In order to get the to to communicate you need to get a software program to "teach" either the mac to speak "PC-ese" or the PC to talk "Mac-ese", there are programs out there for both systems. Both PC MacLAN from Miramar Systems and TSStalk from Thursby Systems give a PC running Windows the ability to speak AFP (Apple File Protocol). Or you can go with a little product called DAVE from Thursby Systems, which will make your mac box look and feel like a PC box. After you have set up the software, you can then connect them to a switch/router and it should work from there. But the key is in the getting the two to use the same protocols, otherwise, you will not be able to use the same line or even see each other on the network. Good luck.

 

[Wik]

He did not say anything about sharing files. It is just sharing the net and it doesn't matter one bit what kind of machine the clients are. Go to www.practicallynetworke.com and there you can read about all the possible ways to share your DSL. In your situation I would go aheah and get a router. It does not matter if you have a Windows,MAC, or Linux, they will all be able to use the internet. Make sure you get an external DSL modem though.

BTW don't use winproxy. If you really wanted to use a software NAT then just use ICS but any software NAT will require the gateway machine to be on for your roomate to be able to access the net.

SMKungPao, to connect a computer to another without a hub or switch you need to use a crossover cable.

 

[DannyLove]

excellent. Thank u all for the suggestions and comments. My plans initially was to only connect the MAC so that they both would have Internet access. Now my idea has expanded and i wish to do that and share files over a network. I'll be taking both advise about the protocol and others that were posted. I thank u again for your help. Wik: Thanks for the link, im checking it out right now.

Danny

 

[DannyLove]

i just noticed that if i want to do the rourter setup for this situation the router needs to have the PPPoE protocol support. Damn, that means i cant use my old Cayman router cayman old router. darn, that sucks. i think it still will be possible. oh well

Danny