Drug cartels new income, black gold, texas tea

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Even drug cartels need to diversify with the economy the way it is . And nobody noticed losing $1 billon worth of oil ?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../12/AR2009121202888.html?wpisrc=nl_pmheadline
MALTRATA, MEXICO -- Drug traffickers employing high-tech drills, miles of rubber hose and a fleet of stolen tanker trucks have siphoned more than $1 billion worth of oil from Mexico's pipelines over the past two years, in a vast and audacious conspiracy that is bleeding the national treasury, according to U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials and the state-run oil company.

Using sophisticated smuggling networks, the traffickers have transported a portion of the pilfered petroleum across the border to sell to U.S. companies, some of which knew that it was stolen, according to court documents and interviews with American officials involved in an expanding investigation of oil services firms in Texas.

The widespread theft of Mexico's most vital national resource by criminal organizations represents a costly new front in President Felipe Calderón's war against the drug cartels, and it shows how the traffickers are rapidly evolving from traditional narcotics smuggling to activities as diverse as oil theft, transport and sales.

Oil theft has been a persistent problem for the state-run Petroleos Mexicanos, or Pemex, but the robbery increased sharply after Calderón launched his war against the cartels shortly after taking office in December 2006. The drug war has claimed more than 16,000 lives and has led the cartels, which rely on drug trafficking for most of their revenue, to branch out into other illegal activities.

Authorities said they have traced much of the oil rustling to the Zetas, a criminal organization founded by former military commandos. Although the Zetas initially served as a protection arm of the powerful Gulf cartel, they now call their own shots and dominate criminal enterprise in the oil-rich states of Veracruz and Tamaulipas.
 

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Oil theft has been a persistent problem for the state-run Petroleos Mexicanos, or Pemex, but the robbery increased sharply after Calderón launched his war against the cartels shortly after taking office in December 2006. The drug war has claimed more than 16,000 lives and has led the cartels, which rely on drug trafficking for most of their revenue, to branch out into other illegal activities.

I guess the war on drug should now be the war on drugs and oil? Lol
 

cubeless

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just a wonderment: how does mexico solve this problem? is it on the road to being a 'failed state'? how much more can the us allow it to slide (gdp is declining; rule of law is fading; etc...) before we need to do something unsavory?

on the other hand, taking over mexico would be one hell of a jobs program... ccc for the 21st century...
 

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just a wonderment: how does mexico solve this problem? is it on the road to being a 'failed state'? how much more can the us allow it to slide (gdp is declining; rule of law is fading; etc...) before we need to do something unsavory?

on the other hand, taking over mexico would be one hell of a jobs program... ccc for the 21st century...

We could probably create some jobs building a big wall on the border. :sneaky:
 

cubeless

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We could probably create some jobs building a big wall on the border. :sneaky:

could we really afford to have it just walled off??? i'm just curious how far into anarchy we would let them go, even with a wall...

if the 'crooks' take over, are they 'crooks' any more??? would we allow some kind of pseudo-fascist state??? typically the bad guys aren't that good with making the transition to a bureaucracy, but how far would we let it go???
 
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I wonder if the Mexican government will fall and we'll simply annex Mexico for our own security, and if so if most Mexicans will support or oppose that annexation. (Almost half of all Mexicans want to immigrate to the USA anyway - would they be happier if the USA came to them?)
 
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I wonder if the Mexican government will fall and we'll simply annex Mexico for our own security, and if so if most Mexicans will support or oppose that annexation. (Almost half of all Mexicans want to immigrate to the USA anyway - would they be happier if the USA came to them?)

They won't support it. Go to little Mexico in any city and you'll see more Mexican flags than American flags. The only thing they want from the US is money. They, for some reason are very loyal to their "Mexican heritige" even though it drove them to flee their nation in search of a better life.
 
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