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Drove Dodge Magnum to Yosemite and back

paulney

Diamond Member
I rented Dodge Magnum for our trip to Yosemite and back. I have to say, this is the first American car of the recent generation that I am seriously impressed with.

Exterior: I love the lines of this wagon. Seriously badass.

Passenger and cargo room: more than plenty. Passengers in the back had plenty of leg room, and our daughter in the child seat couldn't reach the front seats with her legs, so no kicking in the back either. Trunk is just huge. We loaded all our stuff, including backpacks, jogging stroller, baby backpack carrier and suitcases, and there was still plenty of room for more. Seats are comfortable, and interior plastic doesn't feel cheap.

Handling: very nimble. Excellent turning radius for tight parking lots, and very agile on those twisty mountain roads. I was hauling ass in the pins and turns easily passing traffic on the road. Since this was a basic SE rental model, I can only expect better performance with more expensive models on good tires and rims. The steering wheel was too light though, I'd prefer more of a 'road feel' to it.

Power: this is the part that sucked. Basic SE model has 2.7 liter 190 HP engine. Good enough for inter-urban cruising, but it was out of breath in the mountains. Barely going 45-50 mph up the steep inclines in lower gear. The gearbox is auto only, and SE has a primitive gear selection model: no tip-tronic. You can't nudge it to go one gear lower or higher as needed. Very frustrating.

More expensive RT/SRT models have an auto with gear selection available.

Overall: if I were in the market for a wagon, this baby would give an Outback/Legacy a very serious run for its money. Definitely more aggressive badass looks than Subaru. Too bad the MPG is horrenous on Hemi models: 14 city, 20 highway.
 
We just got a used Magnum as a company car for my business (we buy low milage used cars because we drive them into the ground). It has the larger v6 and surprisingly does pretty good for it's size.

Great cars.
 
Originally posted by: j00fek
14/20 FTL 🙁

yep. Apparently you get 20 because HEMI shuts off half the cylinders in cruise mode. I hate to think about the actual numbers, not the ones they claim.
 
Originally posted by: paulney
Originally posted by: j00fek
14/20 FTL 🙁

yep. Apparently you get 20 because HEMI shuts off half the cylinders in cruise mode. I hate to think about the actual numbers, not the ones they claim.

A friend of mine has a Charger R/T, and if you take it fairly easy around town... he gets about 15/24. Are you sure that 20 isn't the combined mileage? Of course, if you decide to not drive it easy... this vehicle is capable of some very bad milege. That is part of what makes it fun though 🙂
 
Originally posted by: paulney
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: paulney
Too bad the MPG is horrenous on Hemi models: 14 city, 20 highway.

But oh so worth it. Trust me 😀

Why don't they offer a stickshift option? Not enough customer base interested in it?

Because it's so freakin' big. You can get it in a 3/4 and 1 ton Ram.
 
I drove an R/T when they first came out. Love it!

I'd own one if it wasn't for the gas consumption. my 3.5 VQ is enough for me !!!
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: paulney
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: paulney
Too bad the MPG is horrenous on Hemi models: 14 city, 20 highway.

But oh so worth it. Trust me 😀

Why don't they offer a stickshift option? Not enough customer base interested in it?

Because it's so freakin' big. You can get it in a 3/4 and 1 ton Ram.

Nah, the car was just not designed for it. If you take a look at the Challenger concept (Mmmmm..) it has the 6-speed from the Viper. But they plan to build that on the next-gen LX platform- the LX is what the 300/Magnum/Charger are built on

But yeah, it has to do with lack of interest I'm sure. It sucks, because for big cars, these have some of the best road feel, performance, etc. out there. Especially in the 30,000 range.
 
Screw the car, tell me about Yosemite, I am taking my wife and son there this summer, none of us have ever been there...
 
Originally posted by: paulney
I rented Dodge Magnum for our trip to Yosemite and back. I have to say, this is the first American car of the recent generation that I am seriously impressed with.

You can thank the Germans for that.

since Daimler-Benz bought the company in 1998, everything was changed. Not only the American company started using Mercedes parts and engineering know-how, but its styling theme was also changed.
 
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: paulney
I rented Dodge Magnum for our trip to Yosemite and back. I have to say, this is the first American car of the recent generation that I am seriously impressed with.

You can thank the Germans for that.

since Daimler-Benz bought the company in 1998, everything was changed. Not only the American company started using Mercedes parts and engineering know-how, but its styling theme was also changed.

The 300 was designed by a Chrysler employee, who joined them long before the merger. Very few people have ever claimed that Mercedes engineering is top notch, either.
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: paulney
I rented Dodge Magnum for our trip to Yosemite and back. I have to say, this is the first American car of the recent generation that I am seriously impressed with.

You can thank the Germans for that.

since Daimler-Benz bought the company in 1998, everything was changed. Not only the American company started using Mercedes parts and engineering know-how, but its styling theme was also changed.

The 300 was designed by a Chrysler employee, who joined them long before the merger. Very few people have ever claimed that Mercedes engineering is top notch, either.

Exterior design is one thing, engineering is another. The cars share many parts with the Mercedes E-class, only using more steel and less aluminum, hence the atrocious curb weight.
 
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: paulney
I rented Dodge Magnum for our trip to Yosemite and back. I have to say, this is the first American car of the recent generation that I am seriously impressed with.

You can thank the Germans for that.

since Daimler-Benz bought the company in 1998, everything was changed. Not only the American company started using Mercedes parts and engineering know-how, but its styling theme was also changed.

The 300 was designed by a Chrysler employee, who joined them long before the merger. Very few people have ever claimed that Mercedes engineering is top notch, either.

Exterior design is one thing, engineering is another. The cars share many parts with the Mercedes E-class, only using more steel and less aluminum, hence the atrocious curb weight.

Funny you mention that. The E500 wagon weighs 52lbs more than the Magnum RT, and 72 more than a Magnum V6 AWD
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: paulney
I rented Dodge Magnum for our trip to Yosemite and back. I have to say, this is the first American car of the recent generation that I am seriously impressed with.

You can thank the Germans for that.

since Daimler-Benz bought the company in 1998, everything was changed. Not only the American company started using Mercedes parts and engineering know-how, but its styling theme was also changed.

The 300 was designed by a Chrysler employee, who joined them long before the merger. Very few people have ever claimed that Mercedes engineering is top notch, either.

Exterior design is one thing, engineering is another. The cars share many parts with the Mercedes E-class, only using more steel and less aluminum, hence the atrocious curb weight.

Funny you mention that. The E500 wagon weighs 52lbs more than the Magnum RT, and 72 more than a Magnum V6 AWD

If the vehicles were nearly identical that would be odd. Unfortunately, the Dodge is stripped of many luxury items found in the Mercedes, uses cheaper interior components, and is still just as heavy.

Magnum V6 SXT AWD = MSRP $29,100 = 4159lbs
Mercedes-Benz V8 E-Class E500 4MATIC Wagon = MSRP $62,000 = 4231lbs

Regardless, the OP can thank the Germans for that relatively decent American car.
 
It's decent, but so are the several other cars based on the same platform and engine. And there are better American cars 🙂
 
The HEMI is rated at 17/25mpg which is pretty damn good considering the massive power and weight. Your thinking of the SRT8 version which has an even bigger and more powerfull HEMI that get 15/20mpg. If they included the MDS(Multi Displacement System) in the SRT8 it would probably jump up to close to the regular HEMI.
 
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