Drove a friends 3 door 2.0L Turbo today.

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Second time i've drove a turbo car, and it's a pretty smart car too. But i couldn't believe how bad the torque steer was. It's especially hard to drive when you?re fighting with the steering wheel, when you floor it. Glad my car is rear wheel drive.

Ohh, and when the turbo kicks in, sheesh.

That's how a car should be made. Rear wheels drive, front wheels steer!
 

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Originally posted by: Scouzer
so...what car

It was a brand new Vauxhall Astra VXR. Don't know if you US peeps would have heard of it or seen it before, but it looks well nice, for what it is anyway.
 

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Ur lucky, i've wanted to drive one of those, i might book a test drive... You got nice friends i know i wouldnt trust my friends with that!
 

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Originally posted by: Jahee
Ur lucky, i've wanted to drive one of those, i might book a test drive... You got nice friends i know i wouldnt trust my friends with that!

Yeah, its a pretty cool car to say the least. I actually own a BMW 330CI, so the 0 - 60 time is similar, except the VXR was a lot more fun to drive.
 

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O Really, what year? I test drove a golf GTI back when they were first out, that was the quickest thing i've ever driven! big big difference to what im driving at the moment, hehe. Tried to test drive the new Clio Sport, but never did in the end.
 

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Originally posted by: Jahee
O Really, what year? I test drove a golf GTI back when they were first out, that was the quickest thing i've ever driven! big big difference to what im driving at the moment, hehe. Tried to test drive the new Clio Sport, but never did in the end.

It's my company car, it's a 06 plate.

Yeah the Golf GTI's look nice. I bet the Clio sports are fun to drive too.
 

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Really, nice company car, do you work at a BMW dealership? i actually learnt to drive in the old 182 an that was seriously quick!
 

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Originally posted by: Jahee
Really, nice company car, do you work at a BMW dealership? i actually learnt to drive in the old 182 an that was seriously quick!

No, i used to be a Apprentice Technician there back in the days though. Well, until i got sacked, meh.
 

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Seriously! i was thinkin of doin that kinda thinkin of gettin into being an 'automotive engineer' considered that as a starting point to get some experience, how was it if u dont mind me asking?
 

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Originally posted by: Jahee
Seriously! i was thinkin of doin that kinda thinkin of gettin into being an 'automotive engineer' considered that as a starting point to get some experience, how was it if u dont mind me asking?

I was a total car nut when I was younger, I knew a great deal about cars from just reading from magazines. I think that knowledge is what helped me get the job, when I was being interviewed.

I don?t want to boast, but I think I would have become an excellent engineer. The only thing that let me down, was all the theory work I had to do. I never really did any of the coursework that was set out, which then led to my eventual dismissal.

It was my dream job back then, and I thoroughly enjoyed working in that environment. They pay wasn?t brilliant, especially as an apprentice (£.2.30 p/h), but I found it to be 100% job satisfaction.

Some of the apprentices that I still keep in touch with now, are working for Porsche and Ferrari, as my dealership also owned these dealerships along with several others. They ended up losing Mercedes to a high end franchise.

Ohh, how I do reminisce. The dealership i worked in, was also one the most spec'ed out in the country too. I had it made. :(

Just think, I could be driving all the latest BMW?s right now. Ohh, well.
 

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Originally posted by: RichUK
Second time i've drove a turbo car, and it's a pretty smart car too. But i couldn't believe how bad the torque steer was. It's especially hard to drive when you?re fighting with the steering wheel, when you floor it. Glad my car is rear wheel drive.

Ohh, and when the turbo kicks in, sheesh.

That's how a car should be made. Rear wheels drive, front wheels steer!

Wrong, all wheels drive and front wheels steer.
 

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Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
Originally posted by: RichUK
Second time i've drove a turbo car, and it's a pretty smart car too. But i couldn't believe how bad the torque steer was. It's especially hard to drive when you?re fighting with the steering wheel, when you floor it. Glad my car is rear wheel drive.

Ohh, and when the turbo kicks in, sheesh.

That's how a car should be made. Rear wheels drive, front wheels steer!

Wrong, all wheels drive and front wheels steer.

So wrong, so wrong.
 

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I was an Apprentice technician. So I was basically carrying out services, along with any diagnosis and repair work that was required (whilst working with my mentor). Within my dealership you had a Service team, which comprised of car technicians, like I was, and the people that booked in the cars on the front desk. You also had Salesmen, brand new and second hand salesmen, along with an admin office too. That was pretty much all the basic departments.

BMW was always fancy with it?s presentation, so what they referred to as a Car Technician, was actually the same as a Car Engineer. They just wanted to sound more professional. Zee Germans, go figure.

They pay was not so good. I was taking home about £400 a MONTH. Bearing in mind I was 16, so that wasn?t too bad, since I started as soon as I left school. I do know, if you?re over the age of 19, they will most likely not be interested n you. When I applied they were interested in people from the age of 16 ? 19. Obviously because it?s a 4 year apprenticeship, so the money increased after each year, and would just about suffice for your age. One of the apprentice technicians I knew then, who is now actually a fully qualified technician, earns a salary of around £21K a year. Which really, isn?t too bad of a wage for a Car Technician these days.

Being an apprentice, you learn all the practical work during your time as an apprentice at your dealership, whislt working with your mentor. You then have 2 week blocks in which you visit a college to learn the theory side. This is actually a 3 year BTEC National Diploma qualification your studying for.

As I worked for BMW, they actually sent us to train at BMW UK?s centre for development, which is based in Bracknell. So it was a much better environment to study in. The hard work, is not the mechanical theory side, but the electronics. That is something I really struggled to get my head around, since I had never studied electronics before, where as other apprentices had. All cars these day?s have a lot fancy electronic equipment in, so studying electronics is now a big part.

My ex colleagues still work in the same trade but for different dealerships. It?s kind of silly to spend all that time training, to then leave and switch trade.

The reason I got sacked, was because I simply didn?t do the coursework. When I did do the coursework, it was very late and of a poor quality. I just had a bad mentality when I was younger, and ultimately paid for it by losing my dream job.