Dropped Qur'an triggers rioting in India

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: brownzilla786

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: DarkThinker
dahunan, I don't how to put this to you. What I would find more offending than someone 'poop staining Korans' is someone wasting a bullet on you because of whatever stupid crap you spew that doesn't make a difference.
You are to be completely ignored by rational people at best, and that from now on will be my policy with you on Anandtech, and the policy of any self respecting Muslim on this forum after reviewing your demeaning and hypocritical posts like the one in this thread.

I just realized something.. you ARE wishing violence over messing up a stack of papers? Too bad..

BTW, I said only those villagers who want to start riots over a dropped Koran deserve to have the poopy ones sent to them..

They are savages and lack any critical reasoning skills ... they are truly lost souls if they think Allah or Muhammed would tell them to hurt others because they hurt "A" Koran

Do you know that one of the greatest libraries in all of history was destroyed by Muslims .. They said if it isn't a Koran.. burn it.. nice way to keep every single human brainwashed and shackled to their religious leaders... I feel for you

Do you know that the greatest minds in all history were silenced by the church? Galileo ring a bell? Your point just plain stupid. All nations and religions can be pointed at for doing such things. Singling muslims out just shows your complete bias approach to the topic.

Uhm.. they are the ones in this topic who are using violence because a book that I can buy 1000 copies of in one order happened to be damaged.. that is ridiculous.. If the book were the only one available on earth then maybe vioent opposition could be somewhat excused.

Organized Religion is somewhat frightening - ALL OF THEM

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: dahunan
I think they are insane for reacting like this over damage to one book of which there ARE HOW MANY IN PUBLICATION>????
I just checked Amazon and I can buy 999 of these
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi...ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

But if one drops on the ground or if something happens to ONE of them then these people are ALLOWED to go batshit crazy and cause riots and create violence.. no wonder the term Islamophobia exists

Your reaction of wanting to send them Qurans covered in fecal matter is equally "batshit crazy"...

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan
I think they are insane for reacting like this over damage to one book of which there ARE HOW MANY IN PUBLICATION>????
I just checked Amazon and I can buy 999 of these
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi...ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

But if one drops on the ground or if something happens to ONE of them then these people are ALLOWED to go batshit crazy and cause riots and create violence.. no wonder the term Islamophobia exists

Your reaction of wanting to send them Qurans covered in fecal matter is equally "batshit crazy"...

I will accep that my desire to taunt them into more violence and death threats is crazy.. but can you tell us how to CURE THEM? - unless you agree that their behavior is understandable and somehow explainable?

 

[yllus]

The amazing irony of this is that aside from the obvious unnecessary violence, their Prophet would take a very dim view of the rioters in principle as well. Their elevation of the book to more than just written words (even if their are the words direct from God's mouth) is tantamount to idolatry.

Worship the god, not the book of the god.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I use the pages of the Quran to wipe my arse if i'm out of paper, or the Bible, i don't discriminate.

Anything else i could wipe my arse with will do too.

You want me to honor the words of a guy who married a six year old girl and had sex with her when she was nine? Sorry, i can't do that.

God of the olden timey days, nope, none of you follow the rules, you pick and choose and the more you pick and the more you choose the less i respect you, at least Muslims got that right, Christians can just fuck the world up and be forgiven. Murder, nema problema, just say you regret it and you are forgiven, rape, well apart from the cheering on about her being a whore anyway you are forgiven.

I don't forgive rapists and murderers, morality isn't subjective, we ALL have empathy (well, psychopaths don't but they are not really normal either) we all know right from wrong without even looking it up, we only look up things to see what we can get away with.

Me? I don't believe in a god, and if there is a god out there he doesn't belive in me.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Do you know that one of the greatest libraries in all of history was destroyed by Muslims .. They said if it isn't a Koran.. burn it..

Which library was that?

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: teclis1023
Middle-Eastern Muslims are notoriously hot headed and often follow "mob-mentality" psychology.

Slight correction here: India is not part of the Middle-East.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: jandrews
Frankly, we were like this in the christian faith the problem is we got over acting like this 300-500 years ago while the Muslim faith just keeps on going. The biggest problem with this is that 300-500 years ago the problems were felt in thei community that had them, nowadays there are global reprocussions for radicalism and this equals out to problems for everyone involved.

They need to become more liberal. The lack of liberal social views is their biggest problem they are facing. Instead they are stuck in a religiously conservative society and politics. The West has progressed because liberal social views have pushed us forward instead of trapping us down with the status qou or harkening back to the "good o'l days".

 

[athithi]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Dropped Qur'an triggers rioting in India

NEW DELHI: Two police posts were set on fire by thousands of agitated residents and students around Jamia Milia Islamia University on Saturday evening. The angry mob first set Jamia police post on fire and later targetted Sahinbagh police post in Sarita Vihar. About 40 people, including policemen, were injured in the violence.

Around two dozen police officers were injured in which four were reported to be critical. The incident happened after local residents in the area resisted police?s efforts to remove a patri market. In course of the encroachment removal drive, the Koran was reportedly dropped by a policeman, leading to tension. A local leader reportedly slapped a police officer.

Police had to use tear gas to disperse the angry mob. Around 3,000 people had collected around 6.30 pm and took out the police records from the Jamia police post and set them on fire before setting fire to the the post too. The SHO of the area Rajesh Sharma and additional SHO Akhilesh Singh were severely injured. The injured police officers were rushed to AIIMS, Holy Family and Apollo. Several vehicles including police jeeps were also set ablaze by the mob.

Traffic in the area was disrupted for nearly four hours. CRPF personnel and additional police force from other districts were deployed. Just when the traffic situation became normal, the mob pelted stones at the Sahinbagh police post and set it on fire too.

The Delhi Police has declared high alert in other minority-dominated areas like Seelampur, Jafarpur etc. Said Sultan Ahmed, a local leader: "We were sorting out the issue with the police. They urged us to bring in the person who had put up the bookstall and to whom the Koran belonged. Suddenly the mob started pelting stones at the post. The gate was locked but the mob broke the gate down and many policemen were hurt in the process."

I often hear how we?re no better than this. How can you say that? A Qur'an is dropped and they full out riot burning out police. It reminds me of this lovely guy who is not a symbol of some seemingly minor sect of extremism. If the riots are any proof violent extremism is commonplace.

Danes who write cartoons can attest to this, along with all those murdered across the globe. We do the victims a great injustice by trying to marginalize the problem we face. By stabbing ourselves in the back on this issue by excusing it as we example how we?re no better. We lack the courage and conviction to demand civility and so this barbarism continues to flourish and spread.

I think it's a huge stretch to claim that the riot was precipitated by the dropping of a Koran. This was about squatters and law enforcement trying to remove them. The Koran was simply an excuse because minority sensitivity is very high in India (inspite of the counter-claims of minority oppression) and bringing in the Koran is sure to load the argument against law enforcement and for the illegal squatters. IMO, these people being Muslim had nothing to do with the riot - but it gave them an excuse to get away with it after the fact.

In most respects, Indian Muslims are very different from Muslims all over the world, particularly the middle-east. In the first place, they chose to stay in India after partition, largely exhibiting their solidarity with a secular, democratic ideal rather than a fundamentalist, religious one. Every Hindu-Muslim confrontation in India has its seeds in a political agenda. Very rarely is there a genuine religious origin to these problems - in India. Of course, there are always exceptions on either side. But for the most part, if most Muslims in the world were anything like Indian Muslims, I think non-Muslims would have a very different, positive perspective of Islam. And there never would have been a 9/11.

 

[pradeep1]

athithi laying out the calm voice of rationality

 

[jpeyton]

The OP wins the award for the most misleading title ever.

Why were they rioting?

The incident happened after local residents in the area resisted police?s efforts to remove a patri market. In course of the encroachment removal drive...

It was an "encroachment removal drive". The police were uprooting residents and kicking them out. You think that might have agitated them?

Have you been to India? I have. The amount of poverty there is staggering. Shanty-towns spring up anywhere there is room. On sidewalks, in alleys, surrounding buildings, etc. These people resist any effort by authorities to move them; sometimes they're successful, other times not. Doing a simple search will show this isn't the first time they've rioted.

Jaskalas, it's time to put down the crack pipe.

And for the rest of you, stop dropping to your knees every time he makes one of these threads. It's embarrassing.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
The OP wins the award for the most misleading title ever.

Why were they rioting?

The incident happened after local residents in the area resisted police?s efforts to remove a patri market. In course of the encroachment removal drive...

It was an "encroachment removal drive". The police were uprooting residents and kicking them out. You think that might have agitated them?

Have you been to India? I have. The amount of poverty there is staggering. Shanty-towns spring up anywhere there is room. On sidewalks, in alleys, surrounding buildings, etc. These people resist any effort by authorities to move them; sometimes they're successful, other times not. Doing a simple search will show this isn't the first time they've rioted.

Jaskalas, it's time to put down the crack pipe.

And for the rest of you, stop dropping to your knees every time he makes one of these threads. It's embarrassing.

You realize this thread was dead for months, right?