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[Tbirdkid]

Ended because of a disagreement....

 

[akira34]

Front and side fans: intake
Rear and top fans: exhaust/venting
Power supply: internal fan towards the inside of the case...

This is lower than computer building 101, it's very, very basic... I'm sure if you thought about it for a few minutes you would have figured it out... Cooler air in the front of the case should be pulled into it. Venting air out the ass end of the case is best, since that's where the processor is closer to and where the PSU is venting from too. The top should vent as well since hot air rises.

 

[Tbirdkid]

I guess I failed computer basics 101 when i got my associates degree in computer science. Or, maybe, I just didnt know how to set it up for optimal flow in this case. Thanks for the answers...

 

[akira34]

Where did you get your degree from?? You don't need to use Vulcan logic to figure it out either. Maybe I have more knowledge than they provide in the classes, or books, but it's fairly basic thermal dynamics here. You want to set up convection current that will bring the cool air in, and push/pull the warm air out. That's why all venting fans should be higher than the intake fans.

This is similar to how central air/heat is setup in new construction too... Heat vents are low, cooling/AC vents are high. At least, if the system is done right they are.

 

[Tbirdkid]

I apologize for not learning how to set up MY case in pc 101. I also, didnt learn vulcan logic. Currently, that is the way I have it set up. My question was to see if there was a different way people that have this case..... have set it up. Thanks for the input.... Keep the sarcasm coming. As I find it funny to read.

 

[viivo]

Power supply: internal fan towards the inside of the case...

I'm confused by this. The second (or third) fan on a PSU should be drawing from the case, not exhausting into it.

 

[akira34]

Damnit Jim, it's not vulcin Vulcan logic... I think that just about everyone will have front/side fans bringing air in and top/rear fans venting out. It just makes sense.

What kind of temps are you seeing on average? I'm getting between 35-38C on my processor and between 40-43C inside the case (since late last night)... This is a new incarnation of the system for me (new case, mobo and processor) so it's probably still "breaking in"... Gotta love 64-bit processors...

 

[Tbirdkid]

I am just making sure I set it up the way most have. That is all. I left the psu fan and all the fans in the case as they were set up from the factory except for the front.

 

[xbassman]

Originally posted by: viivo

Power supply: internal fan towards the inside of the case...

I'm confused by this. The second (or third) fan on a PSU should be drawing from the case, not exhausting into it.

I have to agree here...
Here is a link to AMD's chassis guidelines -> pdf document

I wouldn't necessarily leave the fans the way they come from the factory. They usually aren't correct. (Factory workers tend to just slap em in)

If your case has the side fan (on the door) Use it as an intake.

BTW- akira34 you shouldn't rag somebody about there's college CIS degree.
Colleges tend to be behind the curve when it comes to IS. Everything changes too quickly. More information is available online like where we are now!

 

[Tbirdkid]

Thanks for the intelligent post. Btw, my degree is from a very well known college and I have been working in the semiconductor industry for 8 years. I believe I know which way to do it.... I just want to make sure noone has a better way.... thanks for your help guys....

 

[akira34]

Originally posted by: viivo

Power supply: internal fan towards the inside of the case...

I'm confused by this. The second (or third) fan on a PSU should be drawing from the case, not exhausting into it.

Typically, having the fan from the power supply (that's inside the case) facing down means it will grab more air, faster/sooner, from inside the case and then vent it out the back fan. On the PSU it doesn't matter [as much] as to which way it's facing, as long as it's pulling air into the PSU and not venting into the case.

As for trusting the case assembly line to have the fans in properly, I usually pull the fans and either replace them with different ones or sleeve the wires and then make sure they are blowing in the correct direction.

As for the associates degree, I don't put much stock in those for any field. I have a 4 year degree, which I'm not even using, but employers like it when you've at least got a bachelors degree. If you've been building systems for more than a while, and have done more than a few, you should know all this stuff already. You can learn from experience, or picking the brains of people that have done it. I'd expect someone with over 1500 posts here to know this stuff already and not need to ask about it.

 

[Tbirdkid]

well,
First off, the psu is one of the hottest item in your box... if you are pushing that into the case... your a moron. Second off, a bachelors degree is just as much garbage as my Associates... because no matter where you go... you have to learn how each business does business. Therefore, it is only there to show them you are ready and willing to learn at a fast pace.
Now, I have all of my posts because your right... ive been here for a while and dont need some moron like you giving me advice on how to set up my fans. You should keep your opinion to yourself as it is unwelcome here. I asked a question to people that had this case. Not some moron that has absolutely no clue about it. Thanks for your input... but I think i would rather get advice from someone with down syndrome than you. Have a nice day.

 

[akira34]

Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
well,
First off, the psu is one of the hottest item in your box... if you are pushing that into the case... your a moron. Second off, a bachelors degree is just as much garbage as my Associates... because no matter where you go... you have to learn how each business does business. Therefore, it is only there to show them you are ready and willing to learn at a fast pace.
Now, I have all of my posts because your right... ive been here for a while and dont need some moron like you giving me advice on how to set up my fans. You should keep your opinion to yourself as it is unwelcome here. I asked a question to people that had this case. Not some moron that has absolutely no clue about it. Thanks for your input... but I think i would rather get advice from someone with down syndrome than you. Have a nice day.

CHILL the hell OUT... First off, I'm not going to get sucked into an arguement about degree levels when you're obviously so hostile about it. Second off, EVERY PSU that I've used has the bottom/inside fan sucking air INTO the PSU (and then tossing it out the back of the case). Degrees DO mean more than you think. By your logic someone with a Master's degree is just as qualified as someone with an Associates degree... That's total BS. You might need to learn how each business/company does things, but you still need the skill set to do the base job. Thinking that the associates degrees mean that you're willing (or able) to learn at an accellerated rate is just wishful thinking on your part. Not saying that you can't learn fast, but having that degree DOESN'T automatically mean you can. I've seen MANY employers simply pass over EVERYONE without at least a Bachelors degree and only interview/consider people with at least 4+ years of college.

I've been in the tech industry for several years too, building upon my own skill set to the point where I'm over qualified for more than a few positions. I guess your college skipped over the part where you need to interact with people and NOT blow up at the drop of a hat. Either that, or you skipped that part and went directly to "how to be an a$$hole to as many people as possible and make yourself feel good in the process". In order to survive these days (as a tech that's not sitting in front of a display all day just punching out code or working on servers) you MUST be able to deal with people. My ability there is what keeps my own customers/clients coming back time after time. Unfortunately, the interval between those times is usually fairly long since the "fixes" I do stay fixed until the end user does something, or a new problems comes up (can you say worms? I know you can).

Get off your high horse and deal with what you have for a degree. I'm going off personal/professional experience as for how employers view degrees. Especially since I was involved in hiring more than a few people at one large corporation. Anyone without at least a BS/BA degree was tossed out before even looking at what they claimed they could do. Even though they might have been qualified, having 2 years of college (only) disqualified them for that company. NOT all companies are like that, but enough of them are to make getting a BA/BS degree well worth it.

And now back to your regularly scheduled replies... :disgust:

 

[Tbirdkid]

This is lower than computer building 101, it's very, very basic... I'm sure if you thought about it for a few minutes you would have figured it out...

Where did you get your degree from?? You don't need to use Vulcan logic to figure it out either. Maybe I have more knowledge than they provide in the classes, or books, but it's fairly basic thermal dynamics here.

As for the associates degree, I don't put much stock in those for any field. I have a 4 year degree, which I'm not even using, but employers like it when you've at least got a bachelors degree. If you've been building systems for more than a while, and have done more than a few, you should know all this stuff already. You can learn from experience, or picking the brains of people that have done it. I'd expect someone with over 1500 posts here to know this stuff already and not need to ask about it

Which one of these statements help me answer my question? It was simple.... probably too simple for someone with your GREAT qualifications as an IS guru. Its pretty sad... your at home posting about something like this wasting a beautiful day outside spreading stupidity across the net and wasting my time. Which by the way... im being paid probably twice as much as you with only an associates degree and 8 years experience. I could probably do your job too as I have probably already done it.

Did i tell ya.... im at work getting paid to argue with you? Now, have a nice day.

 

[Tsunami982]

wow... calm down guys. im still in college and im sure you are both smart guys and good at what you do. i believe having a higher degree is what gets you in the door but how good you are at your job determines how you do after that.

as for fans, i have this case and front = intake, rear = exhaust, psu = intake from case and exhaust out the back, top = exhaust, and side = intake. i know from experience, my cpu runs at a cool 32-35C and case is actually a couple degrees below ambient.

have fun flaming each other.