Drone memo released - heavily redacted

[fskimospy]

What is sad, the government and the citizens somehow excuse the killing of US citizens without due process.

Where is the aclu? There must not be any money to be made off this case.

Where is the news? To question obama and his record of upholding human rights would be an insult to those who supported obama.

Why aren't people marching on washington dc demanding obama not kill us citizens without unaccountability?

https://www.aclu.org/national-security/al-aulaqi-v-obama

When will you be issuing your apology to the ACLU?

 

[Victorian Gray]

https://www.aclu.org/national-security/al-aulaqi-v-obama

When will you be issuing your apology to the ACLU?

That's not what he's referring to.

I'll give you a hint, BABIES!!!!!

 

[Victorian Gray]

What is sad, the government and the citizens somehow excuse the killing of US citizens without due process.

Where is the aclu? There must not be any money to be made off this case.

Where is the news? To question obama and his record of upholding human rights would be an insult to those who supported obama.

Why aren't people marching on washington dc demanding obama not kill us citizens without unaccountability?

 

[Texashiker]

When will you be issuing your apology to the ACLU?

Nope, not going to happen.

Too bad the aclu does not go after the government like it does schools.

School displays a cross, the aclu jumps all over that case.

Government kills several us citizens without due process, oh well.

But then again, there is not a lot of money to made from suing the government.

 

[Zebo]

Drones are retarded more half ass war that just makes more enemies. Pre 1945 we used to fight a little more barbaric surrender to our will or face annihilation as a group. Until we relearn old ways we'll always lose.

 

[Jhhnn]

Drones are retarded more half ass war that just makes more enemies. Pre 1945 we used to fight a little more barbaric surrender to our will or face annihilation as a group. Until we relearn old ways we'll always lose.

Yeh, you could make a movie about it- "Return to My Lai! Bigger & Badder than the original!"

 

[Zebo]

Yeh, you could make a movie about it- "Return to My Lai! Bigger & Badder than the original!"

small potatoes and not national policy - we condemned it on national level so no way they believed annihilation was eminent - try Dresden part 2 or Nagasaki Improved.

 

[Knowing]

These things are inviolate, and covered by the United States Constitution.

Government portending that Government is what is important, when it is the individual that is important.

-John

We wouldn't be here talking about this if they were inviolate. The constitution is "just a piece of paper" in so far as without a group of people willing and able to enforce the contract it represents it is about as effective at protecting your right to life as wrapping yourself in a single ply of parchment paper.

But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist.

 

[Zorkorist]

I had no idea we had anarchists in 1808.

"The Union government's actions during the war caused Spooner to radicalize his views to an anarchistic view. In response, Spooner published a series of political tracts, No Treason. The most famous of these is No Treason No. VI: The Constitution of No Authority. In this lengthy essay, Spooner argued that the Constitution was a contract of government (see social contract theory) which could not logically apply to anyone other than the individuals who signed it, and was thus void. Furthermore, since the government now existing under the Constitution pursued coercive policies that were contrary to the Natural Law and to the consent of the governed, it had been demonstrated that that document could not adequately stop many abuses against liberty or prevent tyranny from taking hold. Spooner bolstered his argument by noting that the federal government, as established by a legal contract, could not legally bind all persons living in the nation since none had ever signed their names or given their consent to it – that consent had always been assumed, which fails one of the most basic burdens of proof for a valid contract in the courtroom."

For their to be a contract, there must be consideration to each party of the contract.

Here, we have the U.S. Government running around, doing whatever the hell it likes, with no consideration to the citizens, and therefore, no contract.

-John

 

[Knowing]

He's an interesting figure, probably one of the first politically modern anarchists.

His mail business being crushed is an old story about competing with the government. Fat lot of good a monopoly on First Class letter service is doing the USPS these days.