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drivers in Win8.1

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bgt

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I noticed that when upgrading to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8 there is often a problem(lots of BSOD's) with the rapid store driver from Intel and the AMD AHCI driver. It seems neither 1 of them works flawlessly in Windows 8.1 Only the standard SATA driver from Windows 8.1 works without problems.
Only sad thing is.....you loose SSD speed. Anyone else have these problems. I upgraded to Windows 8.1 on about 30 pc's/laptops now and the problem is annoying. Neither Intel or AMD have a proper working SATA driver out now😕
PS upgrading also causes undetermined errors after a while also. This forces me more and more to do a fresh install. That is really time consuming. You first have to get the license numbers out of the pc/laptop to do a fresh install. To in install Windows 8.1 is mostly 6-10 minutes in UEFI mode. But then you have to install all the additional SW....brrrrr
 
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No issues at all for me using the latest Intel RST drivers with Win 8.1 on three of my pcs I've upgraded.
Two desktops with z68 chipsets and an Asus G73JH laptop.
Of course, I did clean installs on all three, which is the only way to go when changing OS's IMO. :thumbsup:

I did the inf update first, then the management engine and last the RST drivers.

So its not the drivers, it must be the "upgrading" from Win8 as you already suspected.
 
I've done two upgrades to 8.1,the first one was a clean install, I just went to Intel's website and downloaded latest 8.1 drivers for LAN, ME engine,RST etc(I use SSD as cache drive) no problems(default 8.1 ones were older).

Second PC was a upgrade from 8 to 8.1 on my Samsung laptop,no problems with that either and that is Intel chipset too.

I suspect clean install of 8.1 will probably solve your issues.
 
I only do clean installs of Windows 8.1. So thats not the issue. I then use Intels inf. file 9.4.0.1027 and Rapid Storage 12.8.0.1016.
Are these the proper files?
 
bgt said:
I only do clean installs of Windows 8.1. So thats not the issue. I then use Intels inf. file 9.4.0.1027 and Rapid Storage 12.8.0.1016.
Are these the proper files?
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spot on, those are the approved ones for Windows 8.1

make sure to install the intel chipset driver using the -overall -overide command to install everything, otherwise the components which are defined in the system will be skipped but its better to have all the components updated using the overall/overide command

After you download the *.ZIP File, copy the folder you extracted to C:\ and rename the folder to chip.

Now, right click on the Windows 8.1 Start Menu button and choose Command Prompt (Admin)

Type CD\ then hit Enter

Type cd chip then hit Enter

Type setup.exe -overall -overide then hit Enter.

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This command will install the full Intel Chipset Drivers not just the components that are missing. This is very essential.
 
berryracer said:
make sure to install the intel chipset driver using the -overall -overide command to install everything, otherwise the components which are defined in the system will be skipped
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Um, seeing as how these are just INF files, isn't it a good thing for it to not override existing drivers? Especially if the existing driver is an actual driver and not just a placeholder INF file like all this stuff is?

bgt said:
I noticed that when upgrading to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8 there is often a problem(lots of BSOD's) with the rapid store driver from Intel and the AMD AHCI driver. It seems neither 1 of them works flawlessly in Windows 8.1 Only the standard SATA driver from Windows 8.1 works without problems.
Only sad thing is.....you loose SSD speed. Anyone else have these problems. I upgraded to Windows 8.1 on about 30 pc's/laptops now and the problem is annoying. Neither Intel or AMD have a proper working SATA driver out now😕
PS upgrading also causes undetermined errors after a while also. This forces me more and more to do a fresh install. That is really time consuming. You first have to get the license numbers out of the pc/laptop to do a fresh install. To in install Windows 8.1 is mostly 6-10 minutes in UEFI mode. But then you have to install all the additional SW....brrrrr
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Unless you're using RAID, why are you using RST? The default Windows drivers are just fine, and as already mentioned, RST doesn't contain any pixie dust to make things magically faster. Microsoft does update and improve the Windows storage controller drivers (despite the very misleading 2006 date) with each new version of Windows, and you'll sometimes see them updated via Windows Update hotfixes.

This reminds me of the XP days when people would install Intel WiFi software packages that replaced the Windows WiFi user interface with the horrifically ugly and buggy Intel WiFi Manager, just because they got into this mentality of "I need to install everything from the hardware manufacturer, regardless of whether I need it, even if it results in an inferior experience."
 
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code65536 said:
Um, seeing as how these are just INF files, isn't it a good thing for it to not override existing drivers? Especially if the existing driver is an actual driver and not just a placeholder INF file like all this stuff is?



Unless you're using RAID, why are you using RST? The default Windows drivers are just fine, and as already mentioned, RST doesn't contain any pixie dust to make things magically faster. Microsoft does update and improve the Windows storage controller drivers (despite the very misleading 2006 date) with each new version of Windows, and you'll sometimes see them updated via Windows Update hotfixes.

This reminds me of the XP days when people would install Intel WiFi software packages that replaced the Windows WiFi user interface with the horrifically ugly and buggy Intel WiFi Manager, just because they got into this mentality of "I need to install everything from the hardware manufacturer, regardless of whether I need it, even if it results in an inferior experience."
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well since the release notes of Intel Chipset Drivers 9.4.0.1022 and above state Windows 8.1 compatibility, I don't get it how it is not beneficial, hence, I always install them in full

secondly, the IRST driver is not just for RAID, it has a batter IATA controller which leads to better performance

I have the benchmarks too I've done a lot of testing

With default Windows controller:

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after IRST:

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that's on the SSD and system you see in my sig
 
well since the release notes of Intel Chipset Drivers 9.4.0.1022 and above state Windows 8.1 compatibility, I don't get it how it is not beneficial, hence, I always install them in full
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But why even install it in the first place? It does nothing useful--they're just INF files! My policy is always "do not install unless it does something useful", not "install unless it proves to be problematic".

secondly, the IRST driver is not just for RAID, it has a batter IATA controller which leads to better performance

I have the benchmarks too I've done a lot of testing
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And those benchmarks (wait, the partition sizes aren't even the same--this isn't a well-controlled test) show that whatever difference there is, it's minute and not something that people will notice. Also, I would expect that the OS drivers in 8.1 are better than in 7. If RST causes problems (e.g., this thread and the reports I see on other forums of people losing hot-swap functionality), why load them in the first place if the difference, if any, is so tiny?
 
Ok, installed the INF file as Berryracer advised and that went ok. But after installing RST I get BSOD's again on my i7 rig. It says "iastora.sys" error.
 
bgt said:
Ok, installed the INF file as Berryracer advised and that went ok. But after installing RST I get BSOD's again on my i7 rig. It says "iastora.sys" error.
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Then uninstall RST. You don't need it. The performance benefits that they provide, if any, are marginal at best. And Intel has quite the history with shoddy driver work. Windows 8.1 actually includes a copy of the RST drivers, but it uses them only if you use RAID--it uses its own drivers for AHCI. Maybe there's a reason for this?
 
Intel storage controller drivers have given me nothing but headaches all the way back to Win2K days. I don't even bother with them anymore.
 
I installed Win 8.1 from scratch to wife's new laptop with new SSD (Plextor M5M) and speed was slower when not using the 8.1 rapid storage driver. This is what I get now with all the latest stuff:

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It's crazy how much of a difference the .1 specific drivers are making. Never encountered this with Windows before.
 
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gus6464 said:
I installed Win 8.1 from scratch to wife's new laptop with new SSD (Plextor M5M) and speed was slower when not using the 8.1 rapid storage driver. This is what I get now with all the latest stuff:

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It's crazy how much of a difference the .1 specific drivers are making. Never encountered this with Windows before.
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do you mean you also got better results with the IRST driver than the default Windows one?
 
Something weird with my new combo(4770k+MB) and Windows 8.1. If I install windows 8.1 on the top pc in my signature it won't shut down/restart properly anymore and sometimes gets a BSOD when booting up. Error code 0xc000018.
Installed Windows 8 back again....no problems. Installed a fresh win8.1 several times but errors stay present. The first 10 minutes after the install of 8.1 are ok but then slowly slowly it starts to hang or won't shut down. I have to do hard resets all the time to boot up again. Anyone?
 
bgt said:
Something weird with my new combo(4770k+MB) and Windows 8.1. If I install windows 8.1 on the top pc in my signature it won't shut down/restart properly anymore and sometimes gets a BSOD when booting up. Error code 0xc000018.
Installed Windows 8 back again....no problems. Installed a fresh win8.1 several times but errors stay present. The first 10 minutes after the install of 8.1 are ok but then slowly slowly it starts to hang or won't shut down. I have to do hard resets all the time to boot up again. Anyone?
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Get the latest chipset and BIOS. Critical.
 
bgt said:
Something weird with my new combo(4770k+MB) and Windows 8.1. If I install windows 8.1 on the top pc in my signature it won't shut down/restart properly anymore and sometimes gets a BSOD when booting up. Error code 0xc000018.
Installed Windows 8 back again....no problems. Installed a fresh win8.1 several times but errors stay present. The first 10 minutes after the install of 8.1 are ok but then slowly slowly it starts to hang or won't shut down. I have to do hard resets all the time to boot up again. Anyone?
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What does BlueScreenView tell you?
 
bgt said:
Something weird with my new combo(4770k+MB) and Windows 8.1. If I install windows 8.1 on the top pc in my signature it won't shut down/restart properly anymore and sometimes gets a BSOD when booting up. Error code 0xc000018.
Installed Windows 8 back again....no problems. Installed a fresh win8.1 several times but errors stay present. The first 10 minutes after the install of 8.1 are ok but then slowly slowly it starts to hang or won't shut down. I have to do hard resets all the time to boot up again. Anyone?
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user error.....
 
code65536 said:
What does BlueScreenView tell you?
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Ok, but I have win8 on it again. Formatted the C drive so no minidumps available. Will do an install again with 8.1. Usually the Original win8.1 drivers work best/savest but once it starts updating the problems starts. I noticed this on some other pc's( A10-6800, Intel 3225, Intel 3317U, Intel 2120) too but not to the extend of this combo. Could be a mobo firmware failure also. My 3770K combo has no problem at all with win 8.1 besides the IRST file(but Berryracer gave me the right tools for this).
 
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bgt said:
Ok, but I have win8 on it again. Formatted the C drive so no minidumps available. Will do an install again with 8.1. Usually the Original win8.1 drivers work best/savest but once it starts updating the problems starts. I noticed this on some other pc's( A10-6800, Intel 3225, Intel 3317U, Intel 2120) too but not to the extend of this combo. Could be a mobo firmware failure also. My 3770K combo has no problem at all with win 8.1 besides the IRST file(but Berryracer gave me the right tools for this).
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Try a firmware update on your SSD,also try a different SSD to rule out any issues with that during install,if you are using your SSD as cache drive to a normal mechanical drive remember to set your BIOS to RAID before install.
 
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