Drag queen story time for 3 - 6 year olds coming to a public library near you

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ivwshane

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The best way to end bigotry and hate is to keep everyone separated. Kids who grow up with people of their "own kind" are more likely to be tolerant of "others".



Of course I'm being fucking sarcastic as the opposite is true.
 
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SMOGZINN

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The best way to end bigotry and hate is to keep everyone separated. Kids who grow up with people of their "own kind" are more likely to be tolerant of "others".



Of course I'm being fucking sarcastic as the opposite is true.

You can't be a bigot if no one is allowed to be different!
 

Younigue

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I'm assuming you mean the OP, not my post specifically.

They're entitled to their opinion. I happen to think 1/60 of the events being this one is more along the lines of inclusion. People are welcome to not show up. I dunno if I'd set time aside to attend if my local library held the event. Of course, I don't visit the library all that often anyways anymore.
I'd go. My experiences with Drag Queens have been awesome and so much fun!
 
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Lanyap

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I have kids the age of the ones being read to the in the story and I'm unsure what "reasonable conversation" is to be had presuming everyone is acting with the expected decorum and decency I would expect in a public place. I'd be a bit more nervous about my kids asking the types of embarrassing/inelegantly phrased questions that young kids are prone to do, but I'm sure anyone who wasn't in their "first day of the job" of being a drag queen would be used to getting and answering those types of questions.


So when your three year old comes to you and says, "daddy, daddy, why do men dress as women and call themselves drag queens?". You say, "well honey, let's get your iPhone and look at Wikipedia to find out."
 

glenn1

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So when your three year old comes to you and says, "daddy, daddy, why do men dress as women and call themselves drag queens?". You say, "well honey, let's get your iPhone and look at Wikipedia to find out."

It's not like I'm being asked to solve the mathematical equations to prove dark matter exists, people in drag is relatively simple if you're not trying to conceal the existence of people different than you like LGBTQ+ folks. I fear having to explain Matthew Shepard to my IRL 3 and 7 year old more than I do a drag performer reading at a library.
 
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So when your three year old comes to you and says, "daddy, daddy, why do men dress as women and call themselves drag queens?". You say, "well honey, let's get your iPhone and look at Wikipedia to find out."
I would say because the world is made up of so many different people and as long as they are decent in their souls we will celebrate and honor it. What a boring life it would be otherwise.
 

zinfamous

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I think the Drag Queens should step down and John Waters should step in for this event.
 

Starbuck1975

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I have kids the age of the ones being read to the in the story and I'm unsure what "reasonable conversation" is to be had presuming everyone is acting with the expected decorum and decency I would expect in a public place. I'd be a bit more nervous about my kids asking the types of embarrassing/inelegantly phrased questions that young kids are prone to do, but I'm sure anyone who wasn't in their "first day of the job" of being a drag queen would be used to getting and answering those types of questions.
Like I said, this is not a crisis, and not something that needs to be prevented. I just happen to think that drag queens represent a male interpretation of extreme femininity based off harmful stereotypes, often presented as an entertaining circus sideshow curiosity.
 

woolfe9998

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https://www.theadvertiser.com/story...rary-having-drag-queen-story-time/1045667002/

Since the Lafayette program was announced, Elberson said she has heard many positive and negative comments. Some have said the program is inconsistent with their values or beliefs, or inappropriate for children.​


Local one has us pretty mystified. So bizarre this has taken off and become the next in thing, but alas. Never too early to start.

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Can you please explain what it is that's concerning you about a session at a public library where parents can, if they choose, bring their kids to listen to drag queens reading stories?

And while you're at it, you might explain your transparent obsession with transgendered people.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/boy-or-girl-parents-raising-theybies-let-kids-decide.2551898/#post-39517672
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/transgender-teen-joins-girls-track-team.2503361/
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/do-you-think-the-transgender-movement-is-bad-for-the-gay-rights-movement.2453659/
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/tiders-new-update-has-35-gender-options.2491956/#post-38578953

To the point where you feel the need to start a thread over every inconsequential local news story that pertains to them. Or you could just admit that you find them "icky" and we can all be done with these tiresome attempts to pretend to be concerned about things that no one without an unhealthy obsession could possibly give a crap about.
 

Younigue

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Like I said, this is not a crisis, and not something that needs to be prevented. I just happen to think that drag queens represent a male interpretation of extreme femininity based off harmful stereotypes, often presented as an entertaining circus sideshow curiosity.
I guarantee that most if not all drag queens have no malice in their hearts in their presentation of womanliness. I also guarantee that most people who choose to go to a show or hang with drag queens enjoy themselves.

My husband was intimidated the first time we had an opportunity to spend time with a drag queen. He was over it almost immediately when she flirted with him and suggested to me the two of them had a lurid history. Kind of took the steam out of her when I told her I believed it but she also fell in love with me a bit. ... and with my husband!

I think your concern is misplaced.

One of my dear friends is a cross-dresser not a drag queen. She loves women's clothing (all of it <-- I don't even love all of it), make-up, being/feeling pretty and feminine. She loves women.
 

brycejones

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Can you please explain what it is that's concerning you about a session at a public library where parents can, if they choose, bring their kids to listen to drag queens reading stories?

And while you're at it, you might explain your transparent obsession with transgendered people.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/boy-or-girl-parents-raising-theybies-let-kids-decide.2551898/#post-39517672
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/transgender-teen-joins-girls-track-team.2503361/
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/do-you-think-the-transgender-movement-is-bad-for-the-gay-rights-movement.2453659/
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/tiders-new-update-has-35-gender-options.2491956/#post-38578953

To the point where you feel the need to start a thread over every inconsequential local news story that pertains to them. Or you could just admit that you find them "icky" and we can all be done with these tiresome attempts to pretend to be concerned about things that no one without an unhealthy obsession could possibly give a crap about.

I find your concern about his concern conerningly unconcerning.
 
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Moonbeam

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But what happens if not being a white heterosexual male isn’t any longer the best thing ever, if I lose that crutch and have to learn to walk?
 

SMOGZINN

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But what happens if not being a white heterosexual male isn’t any longer the best thing ever, if I lose that crutch and have to learn to walk?

Don't worry, there are support groups to help you. Fox News airs them daily.
 

glenn1

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4 days in:

OP so concerned he can't post his concerns.

Maybe the drag queen in the OP story is his competition to whom he lost the reading gig. While I'm sure there might be some parents out there who would need a fainting couch after hearing about "drag queen story reading" it seems to be a non-issue for most and the lack of outrage might be confusing the expectations of the OP.
 

Moonbeam

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Maybe the drag queen in the OP story is his competition to whom he lost the reading gig. While I'm sure there might be some parents out there who would need a fainting couch after hearing about "drag queen story reading" it seems to be a non-issue for most and the lack of outrage might be confusing the expectations of the OP.
A little bird tells me that as the outrage lessens over time so will the number of drag queens. It has always struck me that the greater you shame people the more they will use an equal if opposite level of pride to punch their shamers in the face. But birds can be wrong I suppose.
 

Starbuck1975

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I guarantee that most if not all drag queens have no malice in their hearts in their presentation of womanliness. I also guarantee that most people who choose to go to a show or hang with drag queens enjoy themselves.

My husband was intimidated the first time we had an opportunity to spend time with a drag queen. He was over it almost immediately when she flirted with him and suggested to me the two of them had a lurid history. Kind of took the steam out of her when I told her I believed it but she also fell in love with me a bit. ... and with my husband!

I think your concern is misplaced.

One of my dear friends is a cross-dresser not a drag queen. She loves women's clothing (all of it <-- I don't even love all of it), make-up, being/feeling pretty and feminine. She loves women.
I doubt very highly anyone who volunteers their time to read to kids at a library has malice in their hearts, and who am I to tell others how to express themselves. I encounter a few transgender and nonbinary people in my daily routines, and extend to them the respect of acknowledging their preferred pronouns and such.

I have no concerns.

However.

I also know a few 2nd wave feminists who struggle with wanting to be tolerant liberals but also rejecting what they perceive as a male misogynist and stereotypical portrayal of femininity. I think that is an interesting conflict of identities.

It’s kind of like how Disney is now looking for creative ways to make their princesses a symbol of empowerment.
 

glenn1

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I doubt very highly anyone who volunteers their time to read to kids at a library has malice in their hearts, and who am I to tell others how to express themselves. I encounter a few transgender and nonbinary people in my daily routines, and extend to them the respect of acknowledging their preferred pronouns and such.

I have no concerns.

However.

I also know a few 2nd wave feminists who struggle with wanting to be tolerant liberals but also rejecting what they perceive as a male misogynist and stereotypical portrayal of femininity. I think that is an interesting conflict of identities.

It’s kind of like how Disney is now looking for creative ways to make their princesses a symbol of empowerment.

It's going to be moot at some point as drag is going to fade in appeal now that it's no longer exotic and shockingly transgressive any more to anyone but perhaps some Mormon family in rural Utah.