Draft:6-2-05 "Special Skills" Draft Considered

dmcowen674

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The Military cannot keep this pace especially in highly skilled areas.

It is certainly looking like The Republican Regime will have to dip into the civilian population before Nov 2008.

6-2-2005 "Special Skills" Draft Considered

Since 1987, at Congress's request, the Selective Service has had a plan to register male and female health care workers ages 20 to 45 in more than 60 medical specialties in case the country suddenly needed more doctors or nurses.

More recently, the agency has talked about reinventing itself by registering all sorts of professionals whose expertise could be helpful in an emergency. That way, the Selective Service could become a national "repository or inventory of special skills," according to the agency's annual report.

The "special skills" draft could give the government the option of calling up people in a variety of specialties, such as linguists, computer experts, police officers or firefighters

Other government agencies besides the Department of Defense could draft those workers, the report states. They could include U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
 

conjur

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Where's that May recruiting report? It's been delayed until at least June 10. Hmm...wonder why?
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: datalink7
We (the military) don't want a draft.

I hear that a lot, but that's not quite what this is. This seems to be more a case of "you've got a special skill, it is your obligation to put that skill to service for your country". This sounds like something that goes way beyond the extreme circumstances required for the regular draft and into whenever they need them sort of deal.

Although I think your point still stands. Even if we're not talking about soldiers in a war, whatever the "emergency", I think we'd rather have people who want to be there.
 

chrisms

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Good thing I have psoriasis, I don't have to worry about this crap anymore.
 

Orsorum

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Nice to know I'm going to be both young and CPA certified with a masters in acctg by the end of 06... :eek:
 

Kerouactivist

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Nice to know I'm going to be both young and CPA certified with a masters in acctg by the end of 06... :eek:

mmmmmmm bye bye...I guess hehe...sucks and is good at the same time
 

piasabird

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According to statistics for around the St Louis, MO area, there is a projected Nursing Shortage, for the near future. Our Community College runs a nursing program and we just got a big 2 million dollar grant to build a new building and expand our nursing program. There is not even enough capacity to train the required nurses.
 

irwincur

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Yes because less than 5% of the military is deployed in Iraq or Afghanistan at the moment. My god, they are stretched so thin what are we going to do. Give me a break. The left is trying too hard to stretch reality with this whole military is falling to pieces thing. We all know that you hate the military but I would expect you to try harder than this.

What would you have said during WWI and WWII when 90% of the military was deployed in war zones - and there were few men left.


Nice to know I'm going to be both young and CPA certified with a masters in acctg by the end of 06...

Yeah, a CPA is going to do the military a whole lot of good.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: piasabird
According to statistics for around the St Louis, MO area, there is a projected Nursing Shortage, for the near future. Our Community College runs a nursing program and we just got a big 2 million dollar grant to build a new building and expand our nursing program. There is not even enough capacity to train the required nurses.

While I lived in the St Louis area there was always a shortage of qualified Nurses . . .
even as they were closing several hospitals in the area.
Even the staff released from closed facilities couldn't keep up with the demand for new Nurses there.


What's the demand for Airborne Brain Surgeons ?
The Fightin' ABS !


 

getbush

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Yes because less than 5% of the military is deployed in Iraq or Afghanistan at the moment. My god, they are stretched so thin what are we going to do. Give me a break. The left is trying too hard to stretch reality with this whole military is falling to pieces thing. We all know that you hate the military but I would expect you to try harder than this.

What would you have said during WWI and WWII when 90% of the military was deployed in war zones - and there were few men left.

"Army Still Stretched by Iraq" Military.com

Article is from OCt. 2004, but we haven't lowered deployments since then so it stands.

edit: Ok the US has 500,000 troops available. 65% are eligible to be deployed. That's 325,000. Somewhere between 138,000 and 150,000 are in iraq. That's 42-46% of active troops. Maybe this is where an accountant could help you, because math obviously is not your forte.
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: datalink7
We (the military) don't want a draft.

i dont think anyone wants it.
at the same time, there are a lot of things that occur (the war, for example) that are not wanted but are considered by those in power to be necessary.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We need a draft for the children of politicians.

Wouldn't work, W was in the Military but money gave him favoritism.

Better that we all see that actually occur.......
 

Train

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
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Didn't make any difference, the Rich and Religious still re-elected him.
As is their constitutional right.

anyways...

Why is I keep hearing about fear tactices from the right? When Drafts/Economic Collapse/War with Iran/Syria/China/North Korea/f*ckin everybody/Police State/ etc etc all come from the Left?

Do the dems ever have anything good to talk about? Should we start giving them all prozac or something?

 

getbush

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ooo ya prozac for everyone. That would keep the the people at Lilly happy and the contributions rolling in for republicans $$$. Excellent idea!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We need a draft for the children of politicians.

Wouldn't work, W was in the Military but money gave him favoritism.

Better that we all see that actually occur.......

Didn't make any difference, the Rich and Religious still re-elected him.

Better that we see the children of Congress drafted and then protected from combat by being given special jobs.
 

Dissipate

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Personally, I would go to prison before I ever went into service to the state.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Yes because less than 5% of the military is deployed in Iraq or Afghanistan at the moment. My god, they are stretched so thin what are we going to do. Give me a break. The left is trying too hard to stretch reality with this whole military is falling to pieces thing. We all know that you hate the military but I would expect you to try harder than this.

What would you have said during WWI and WWII when 90% of the military was deployed in war zones - and there were few men left.
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What is stretched is the Public Trust in the Warmonger Administration... The recruiting numbers are way down... because nobody like to be lied to and sent off to war for a bunch of billionaires.

Maybe you should go since you approve of this administration and their homicidal goals...
 

conjur

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Growing Problem for Military Recruiters: Parents
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/03/nyreg...a061a843432a6&ei=5094&partner=homepage
"We want to show the military that they are not welcome by the P.T.S.A. in this building," she said. "We hope other P.T.S.A.'s will follow."

Two years into the war in Iraq, as the Army and Marines struggle to refill their ranks, parents have become boulders of opposition that recruiters cannot move.

Mothers and fathers around the country said they were terrified that their children would have to be killed - or kill - in a war that many see as unnecessary and without end.

Around the dinner table, many parents said, they are discouraging their children from serving.

At schools, they are insisting that recruiters be kept away, incensed at the access that they have to adolescents easily dazzled by incentive packages and flashy equipment.


A Department of Defense survey last November, the latest, shows that only 25 percent of parents would recommend military service to their children, down from 42 percent in August 2003.

"Parents," said one recruiter in Ohio who insisted on anonymity because the Army ordered all recruiters not to talk to reporters, "are the biggest hurdle we face."

Legally, there is little a parent can do to prevent a child over 18 from enlisting. But in interviews, recruiters said that it was very hard to sign up a young man or woman over the strong objections of a parent.

The Pentagon - faced with using only volunteers during a sustained conflict, an effort rarely tried in American history - is especially vexed by a generation of more activist parents who have no qualms about projecting their own views onto their children.

Lawrence S. Wittner, a military historian at the State University of New York, Albany, said today's parents also had more power.

"With the draft, there were limited opportunities for avoiding the military, and parents were trapped, reduced to draft counseling or taking their children to Canada," he said. "But with the volunteer armed force, what one gets is more vigorous recruitment and more opportunities to resist."

Some of that opportunity was provoked by the very law that was supposed to make it easier for recruiters to reach students more directly. No Child Left Behind, which was passed by Congress in 2001, requires schools to turn over students' home phone numbers and addresses unless parents opt out. That is often the spark that ignites parental resistance.

Recruiters, in interviews over the past six months, said that opposition can be fierce. Three years ago, perhaps 1 or 2 of 10 parents would hang up immediately on a cold call to a potential recruit's home, said a recruiter in New York who, like most others interviewed, insisted on anonymity to protect his career. "Now," he said, "in the past year or two, people hang up all the time. "

Several recruiters said they had even been threatened with violence.

"I had one father say if he saw me on his doorstep I better have some protection on me," said a recruiter in Ohio. "We see a lot of hostility."

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I wonder how many parents voted for the Propagandist and actually support the war but don't want their kids to die for what we know to be based on a lie?