Dr. Watson's Longhorn Makeover Raises Eyebrows

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"[T]he vast majority of consumers won't be able to navigate through the volumes of data to make informed decisions as to what they don't want to send.

"Microsoft has said the data will be submitted anonymously, but it's hard to see how a submission will be useful to the person who submits it if it's done completely anonymously," Cooper..
 

Smilin

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Boy that's a lot of FUD to swallow at once.

As for:
"Microsoft has said the data will be submitted anonymously, but it's hard to see how a submission will be useful to the person who submits it if it's done completely anonymously," Cooper..

The data collected now from an online crash analysis is anonymous now and it's still quite useful for spotting trends. Although it doesn't explicitly collect user-identifying information, The submitted data is also very tightly secured just in case someone left something identifying in it. If you are troubleshooting a problem over at MS you have to go through a lengthy human controlled process just to get permission to see if your error occurs anywhere else in the world. You still don't get access to the aggregate anonymous info.

The chances that something user-identifying will be contained in a 64k stack dump are virtually zero. The chances that someone would notice if they were is virtually zero, the chances that someone would care are virtually zero, and the chances that someone could gain illegal access ARE zero.

This is some stupid journalist trying to cry about the sky falling to raise his ratings.
 

dawks

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Originally posted by: Smilin
Boy that's a lot of FUD to swallow at once.

As for:
"Microsoft has said the data will be submitted anonymously, but it's hard to see how a submission will be useful to the person who submits it if it's done completely anonymously," Cooper..

The data collected now from an online crash analysis is anonymous now and it's still quite useful for spotting trends. Although it doesn't explicitly collect user-identifying information, The submitted data is also very tightly secured just in case someone left something identifying in it. If you are troubleshooting a problem over at MS you have to go through a lengthy human controlled process just to get permission to see if your error occurs anywhere else in the world. You still don't get access to the aggregate anonymous info.

The chances that something user-identifying will be contained in a 64k stack dump are virtually zero. The chances that someone would notice if they were is virtually zero, the chances that someone would care are virtually zero, and the chances that someone could gain illegal access ARE zero.

This is some stupid journalist trying to cry about the sky falling to raise his ratings.


Yea really, theres almost no risk. And as far as I am concerned, the benefits definatly out weight the 'risks'. Error reporting is a great tool to help improve performance, compatibility, and reliability of Microsoft based systems.
 

Codewiz

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I like having the option to submit error reporting. However, if you don't like what a company is doing with their product then don't use it. I wish people would stop whining about MS. If you don't like it, use something else.

If I am really bothered by this action then I will use something else instead of whining about MS.
 

spyordie007

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If you are concerned about what is getting released you have the option to not submit the data in the first place.
...risks could be even higher in a corporate environment where valuable intellectual property and confidential data is transmitted automatically when a piece of software crashes.
In a corporate enviroment administrators can disable the reports entirely via. group policy if they believe there is a concern with corporate IP getting released.