Dr. Pizza alert! - Should I buy this goat?
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I dont know about your dog. But I have to keep my goats and sheep away from my dogs (or the other way around). They are great danes. One time they found a "weak" spot on the fence and they both went after the goats/sheep. They killed 3 goats and one sheep. A few months after the same thing happened. They found another week spot on the fence and killed 3 sheep. They did that while we were at work, so nobody was home.
Looks like it killed that golden retriever. Vicious little buggers. Might want to keep your dog locked up!
I've heard that even though the dogs might not be able to catch a goat or sheep, they will run them to death.
Goats are social animals.
Don't buy one goat.
As an aside, and someone that grew up with animals, I couldn't see keeping a dog that killed a bunch of sheep. It would have to go.
Don't buy one goat.
As an aside, and someone that grew up with animals, I couldn't see keeping a dog that killed a bunch of sheep. It would have to go.
I have a smaller dog, maybe the goat can be "social" with her.
I am concerned about the dead retriever though. All of my dogs are tougher than goldens, but it does paint the goat as an agressive killer.
Goats are not hard to catch. Sheep on the other hand are fast little fckers. We did notice the same bite mark pattern on both, sheep and goat. They all had bite marks on their front/back legs, shoulder and/or hip area.
if you think goats aren't hard to catch maybe you should've helped me when i sold 4 of mine to a neighbor. it took 6 people about 2 hours to get them all into a trailer. now, tame goats (bottle raised) are very easy to catch since they come right to you, but regular goats are a PITA to catch.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
If I was getting one, I'd get two. (They're social animals.) Cute little ah heck. They prefer certain weeds to "lawn", hence despite the ad, they're not "great lawn mowers."
To cut and paste from another conversation on the exact same topic (pygmy goats):
I'd probably go for it if I were you, if I met the animals and they didn't have personality problems and seemed healthy.
Wife says: things you can ask the seller: (from the international fainting goat association site)
Vaccination history (what vaccines were used and when)
Deworming history (what dewormers were used and how often)
Does the herd have foot rot?
Does the herd have sore mouth?
Does the herd have any CAE?
Does the herd have any caseous lymphadenitis (CL)?
Does the herd have any Johne?s disease?
Does the herd have any abortion problems?
Production and background information include:
Pedigree information (should be on registration certificate or application forregistration)
Production record of does (years, number of kids produced)
Production record of any young goat?s parents
Birth status of young goats (single, twin, triplet)
Sellers should eagerly provide answers to all of these questions, so buyers should not hesitate to ask! If sellers are hesitant to provide answers to these basic questions, buyers should consider taking their business elsewhere!
Also, if you're getting goats, you'll want to take a look at some of the articles at www.goatworld.com
Things you'll want to be aware of: what plants are poisonous to goats. (I killed one of our goats by absent mindedly feeding it an evergreen. I fed them xmas trees, so I figured, evergreens are fine. Had I said to myself, "Japanese yew", I'd have realized what I was doing up front. 1/4 cup will kill a cow - just nibbling on this common evergreen that people use to landscape will kill an adult goat pretty quickly. Oooops.)
The breeder/seller may not know the answers to the above questions, but they're worth asking. (It really comes down to how serious of a breeder the person is who's selling the pygmy goat.) Or, if the pygmy goat came from somewhere else nearby, perhaps you could take a drive by to see if it looks like the person cares for their herd. If the person selling the goat doesn't know the answers to the health questions (CAE, CL, Johne's, etc.), then ask, "have you ever had a problem with sick goats that wasn't diagnosed, or have you ever had any goats that died? A "yes" answer isn't necessarily a bad answer to the latter question - where you have livestock, you're gonna have deadstock (sooner or later.)
I'm not super familiar with pygmy goats and their specific needs. The goatworld site, though, contains a ton of information (if I recall correctly.) As some of the responses in the thread indicate, there's a wide range of personalities among goats, or how they socialize with the humans taking care of them. Bottle babies are generally the most friendly. But, just because a goat nursed from its mother doesn't mean it won't be friendly. Over time, you can usually get goats to become quite friendly toward people. Several in our herd came from a farm where they preferred that the goats not be overly friendly. (Most came from places where friendliness was one of the most desired traits.) All of the goats who tended to shy away from us at first are not quite acclimated to us and will readily approach us - it takes a lot of work though. (Animal crackers are one of the best bribes for goats.)
To cut and paste from another conversation on the exact same topic (pygmy goats):
I'd probably go for it if I were you, if I met the animals and they didn't have personality problems and seemed healthy.
Wife says: things you can ask the seller: (from the international fainting goat association site)
Vaccination history (what vaccines were used and when)
Deworming history (what dewormers were used and how often)
Does the herd have foot rot?
Does the herd have sore mouth?
Does the herd have any CAE?
Does the herd have any caseous lymphadenitis (CL)?
Does the herd have any Johne?s disease?
Does the herd have any abortion problems?
Production and background information include:
Pedigree information (should be on registration certificate or application forregistration)
Production record of does (years, number of kids produced)
Production record of any young goat?s parents
Birth status of young goats (single, twin, triplet)
Sellers should eagerly provide answers to all of these questions, so buyers should not hesitate to ask! If sellers are hesitant to provide answers to these basic questions, buyers should consider taking their business elsewhere!
Also, if you're getting goats, you'll want to take a look at some of the articles at www.goatworld.com
Things you'll want to be aware of: what plants are poisonous to goats. (I killed one of our goats by absent mindedly feeding it an evergreen. I fed them xmas trees, so I figured, evergreens are fine. Had I said to myself, "Japanese yew", I'd have realized what I was doing up front. 1/4 cup will kill a cow - just nibbling on this common evergreen that people use to landscape will kill an adult goat pretty quickly. Oooops.)
The breeder/seller may not know the answers to the above questions, but they're worth asking. (It really comes down to how serious of a breeder the person is who's selling the pygmy goat.) Or, if the pygmy goat came from somewhere else nearby, perhaps you could take a drive by to see if it looks like the person cares for their herd. If the person selling the goat doesn't know the answers to the health questions (CAE, CL, Johne's, etc.), then ask, "have you ever had a problem with sick goats that wasn't diagnosed, or have you ever had any goats that died? A "yes" answer isn't necessarily a bad answer to the latter question - where you have livestock, you're gonna have deadstock (sooner or later.)
I'm not super familiar with pygmy goats and their specific needs. The goatworld site, though, contains a ton of information (if I recall correctly.) As some of the responses in the thread indicate, there's a wide range of personalities among goats, or how they socialize with the humans taking care of them. Bottle babies are generally the most friendly. But, just because a goat nursed from its mother doesn't mean it won't be friendly. Over time, you can usually get goats to become quite friendly toward people. Several in our herd came from a farm where they preferred that the goats not be overly friendly. (Most came from places where friendliness was one of the most desired traits.) All of the goats who tended to shy away from us at first are not quite acclimated to us and will readily approach us - it takes a lot of work though. (Animal crackers are one of the best bribes for goats.)
:Q Damn. The trick to catch them is reaching for the back legs. At least thats how my wife does it. Runs after them and then, "bang", grabs one of their back legs. But then again my wife used to run cross country for a university, so that gives her a slight advantage, LOL.
Now, our goat herd has become really social with us. We dont have to chase them anymore to dewormed them or give them shots. They pretty much come to us whenever we go out to the pasture. It did take us a little while to get them to feel that comfortable, but dealing with the herd is so much easier this way.
Originally posted by: randay
can you tell i never had that toy growing up
what does a giraffe say?
platypus?
Giraffe don't say anything, their necks are so long their vocal chords became unusable. IIRC.
Not sure about platypus, I imagine they growl or something.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
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Date: 2007-10-18, 4:05PM EDT
two pigmys billys small with horns .
2 years old
come see!
call 585 538 6286
25.00 each
Location: caledonia
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Reply to: sale-452867268@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-10-18, 4:05PM EDT
two pigmys billys small with horns .
2 years old
come see!
call 585 538 6286
25.00 each
Location: caledonia
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 452867268
If you are looking for pets, i'd get either whethers or does. Not bucks.
Goats are worth so little around here that most people hardly even feed them. Most of the ones that you find are not taken care of very well. I picked up two for around $30 total. Gave them their shots and took care of the hooves, now they are fat and happy.
You'll have to learn how to trim hooves if you get one, and the shots are easy to give if you want to save money. They need CD-T twice in a month, then once a year after that. You can buy that at any decent feed store.
Dr. Pizza is right, goats prefer woody plants and brush to grass.
Goats are worth so little around here that most people hardly even feed them. Most of the ones that you find are not taken care of very well. I picked up two for around $30 total. Gave them their shots and took care of the hooves, now they are fat and happy.
You'll have to learn how to trim hooves if you get one, and the shots are easy to give if you want to save money. They need CD-T twice in a month, then once a year after that. You can buy that at any decent feed store.
Dr. Pizza is right, goats prefer woody plants and brush to grass.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
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