Dr. Paul's support among liberals is increasing.

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Robin Koerner (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/blue-republican_b_886650.html?page=2):
If you are a Democrat, and you sit tight and vote Democrat again "because you've always been a Democrat" or because you think that some group with which you identity will benefit more from Democrat programs than a Republican one, then that is up to you, and I wish you well. But don't you dare pretend that you are motivated primarily by peace, civil rights or a government that treats people equally.

This is a good thing and I think Dr. Paul can win if true Progressives get out and vote for him in primaries even if you vote for Ralph Nader in the general election. As the editorial and Dr. Paul himself have pointed out, his main priority won't be to abolish the Federal welfare state first, it will be calling all of our troops home first.

Dr. Paul is the only Republican who will never hand your money over to Wall Street or to corportate contractors to construct the Trans Texas Corridor. He's the only one who won't give your hard earned money to Halliburton and the MIC. Rather, he will cut out the mercantile interests and he will have a very fair SS phase out plan if he were to be elected. But he would not make that a priority anyway.
 

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Progressives do like Dr. Paul because he has a lot of good ideas: Ending of the wars and deployments in the ME, drastic drug policy reform, not accepting the free-trade mantra, etc. However, he has so many other bad ideas that they probably wouldn't vote for him. Its like saying that Paleo-Conservatives (not the current Republicans or tea-baggers) would vote for Kuschinich (sp?). Again, plenty of good ideas, but enough bad ones so as to not guarantee votes.

BTW, as a progressive (kindasorta), I voted for Dr. Paul in the '08 primary.
 
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fskimospy

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Anyone remember the 2008 primaries where all the Paultards were just ABSOLUTELY SURE that this time Ron Paul was going to go places? Then he took all their campaign contributions, shit his pants as usual, then went back under his rock for another four years.

It doesn't surprise me that someone as stupid as Anarchist420 might think it's going to be different this time, but everyone else knows better.
 
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Please stop with the 'Dr Paul' bullshit like he's some kind of Washington outsider. He's CONGRESSMAN Paul, or, if you prefer, REPRESENTATIVE Paul.
 

irishScott

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So? He's not going to win. It's like saying a Libertarian candidate's support among libertarians is increasing. ZOMG *yawn*
 

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I refuse to vote for anyone who believes our problems will be solved by going back to the gold standard.. no thank you
 

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Dr. Paul as the GOP candidate is liked by liberals, but we would greatly prefer Sarah Palin.
 

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The other thing to point out to anarchist420, is that throughout history and in many countries, its a frequent occurrence to have the extreme right and the extreme left to unite and agree on some issue or other.

But perhaps the mistake anarchist420 makes when it happens with Ron Paul and Liberal democrats, is that in no way does it even imply that Ron Paul leads the liberal democrats or that liberal democrats somehow lead Ron Paul. Because the real answer lies in the fact that both ends of the extreme political spectrum like some issue X for totally different reasons.
 

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There really aren't any liberals anymore. More like faux liberals who put up a tepid resistance to whatever shit goes down. If I had to guess the liberal base is probably doing very well. The rubes that are eating shit and hungrily ask for more of it from their Republican lords get what they vote for.

Even though Paul makes alot of sense he still goes on and on about getting rid of IRS, DoEducation, Civil War, Slavery, Revolutionary War...

Well it gives pause. Ron Paul if elected would ruin everyone's day. I don't think the American people are going to get it. The bankruptcy must come, the pain train is the only answer to our broken, inept, corrupt government.
 

Rock Hydra

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Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. I'm sure he would support Ron Paul if he were alive today.
 

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I don't know how old you are Generator, but Ross Perot, said more or less the same thing 20 years ago.

We're fighting a Government that has no cap on spending, no debt ceiling, per se.

Which is an almost impossible fight.

Once Government allows itself unlimited spending, there is no recourse for you and I.

-John
 
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I don't know how old you are Generator, but Ross Perot, said more or less the same thing 20 years ago.

We're fighting a Government that has no cap on spending, no debt ceiling, per se.

Which is an almost impossible fight.

Once Government allows itself unlimited spending, there is no recovery for you and I.

-John

and sadly Ross Perot was proven to be 100% right about the effects of global "Free Trade Agreements", aka "The giant sucking sound" of jobs leaving this nation.
 
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werepossum

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I don't know how old you are Generator, but Ross Perot, said more or less the same thing 20 years ago.

We're fighting a Government that has no cap on spending, no debt ceiling, per se.

Which is an almost impossible fight.

Once Government allows itself unlimited spending, there is no recourse for you and I.

-John
Ross Perot was my man until he threw his tantrum, quit, and began spouting conspiracy theories. Bush is conspiring to ruin his daughter's wedding? Please.
 

Zorkorist

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He hasn't been back.

I can't think of a man that has stuck to his principles like Ross Perot.

We had one shot at him, we didn't take it.

-John
 

Rock Hydra

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There really aren't any liberals anymore. More like faux liberals who put up a tepid resistance to whatever shit goes down. If I had to guess the liberal base is probably doing very well. The rubes that are eating shit and hungrily ask for more of it from their Republican lords get what they vote for.

Even though Paul makes alot of sense he still goes on and on about getting rid of IRS, DoEducation, Civil War, Slavery, Revolutionary War...

Well it gives pause. Ron Paul if elected would ruin everyone's day. I don't think the American people are going to get it. The bankruptcy must come, the pain train is the only answer to our broken, inept, corrupt government.

I disagree that disbanding Income Tax is nonsensical. Its purpose is servicing the debt that is self perpetuating by the virtue of debt instruments being borrowed at interest from one source. He talks about Congress issuing credit interest free, and dumping the private central bank (Federal Reserve) scam. I think the free market is going to win on this one whether legislation is enacted or not. Income taxes are one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto and are not apportioned as required by law.

DOE, systematically removing peoples' right and interest in educational auto-determination.
D.H.S., TSA, FEMA...enough said.
SPP, North American redistribution of wealth
NAFTA/GATT, bye bye jobs! Hello post industrial society!
 
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