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DPAD - For those of you wondering about the "negative results" in the stats

DanC

Diamond Member
Logical question to ask... how a person could have negative stats.

Simple answer.

Through some testing, and good-old-fashioned detective work, a problem was discovered in the dupe-checking
mechanism of the stats generator.

Stephen was gracious enough to work through it with us - and several of us submitted albiet huge - bogus results.
Evidently there was a compilation error that was allowing dupes through. Sometimes a new user will errantly
rename results.dat to results.txt - or combine the wrong files - or whatever mechanism results in submitting duplicates.

Our collective concern for the value of the project dictated that we work together with Stephen to "tweak" the
stats mechanism to assure a "level playing field" for all participants. Further - this recompilation and application of the
dupe-checker to the entire database ensures that only one of any given result (same parameters, same checksum, same result) resides in the database.

This work is good for ALL participants - and nipped any potential problems "in the bud" so to speak. We wanted to get
through the testing and validate the results before announcing any particular "problem" with the project.

The database revealed only about a 7% duplicate loss - so there was no mass loss of stats. Some will notice adjustments - some will not. It has only to do with how many duplicates were sent for whatever reason. Everyone will receive full credit for unique results - (as it should be) 😉

TeAm DPAD extends its warmest thanks to Stephen Brooks for quickly and carefully attending to this situation BEFORE it became a problem. It's really nice to work with someone with the class of Mr. Brooks.

DPAD is solid - and moving forward. 🙂

- we now resume our regular crunching program. -

oh... and btw - I'm STILL sandbagging. The results I submit Friday will all be REAL. 😉
 
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WTG Stepehen and all those (DanC 🙂 ) involved in this project...bah DAn..you said it was only about the stats 😛

Also, dupes yield nothing in reference to the actual research so this is good for the entire project.
 
Nice work DanC!! I was always wondering if ppl were able to cheat by just submitting results twice from different machines or by any other means. Good to know that DPAD is now bulletproof. :beer:😀:beer:
 
There is a good reason you might be missing some points. There was a thread about using the monitoring tool - (something - I forget exactly the details) but you had to turn off a setting in the config file - or it'd download all the latest results into your results.txt -

That may well be what happened - as I seem to recall you two particularly were working on that.

It's not that you did ANYTHING wrong - it's just a snafu that's been corrected.

It is only fair however to recognize the work of Kokomo and Cowboy - both of whom were the true "finders" of the problem. I merely facilitated - and verified their findings. Neither of them (nor I) were "cheating" - we were working with Stephen to isolate and identify a problem that has now been corrected. There should be no more "adjustments" coming.

Sorry to have been "secretive" - but it was necessary to get the problem fixed prior to any "unpleasantness" shall we say...
 
Well, then a big, cold crate of :beer: to DanC, Kokomo and Cowboy!!

I don't think anybody in here cheated intentionally. For some it was that bogues monitoring tool. (Notepad rulez! 😀) And as Kokomo and Cowboy were the "finders" of the problem they of course also had to varify if their finding was true. The same holds true for DanC. So there are NO bad feelings or accusations or anything against anybody within [TA]DPAD.

So let's enjoy a better DPAD and crunch on!! 😀
 
0.3% repeated!!! yay, go TA!

I think our repeats are purely from the same experiment happening on separate machines/users. Scary stuff from Terrene Bell, however. I was wondering where their results were coming from :S

Well at least It's good that Stephen is cracking down on these cheaters :beer:
 
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