Download Red hat 7.2? I cannot find a valid, fast link anywhere

[Mellman]

I need red-hat 7.2 for this application we're installing. I cannot find a link to download it. the red hat site just says its old, get the new version...

Google shows nothing but links that go at 10kb/s...

 

[nweaver]

get an updated version of the app that runs on the current Fedora core/RHEL/Cent OS...running 7.2 is bad, as there are NO security updates.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Try the compat libraries to run it under something maintained.

 

[Mellman]

heh i would if i could - they ONLY support 7.2.

The company does mostly windows development. but its a java app -so they made a port to linux. It doesnt work very well at all- but the boss says he wants to use linux.

 

[tyanni]

tell the boss he is responsible if something happens to the server since its not been patched in years...

 

[Brazen]

Have you tried installing it on Centos 4? It might work, or it may at least tell you what dependancies it is missing and hunt them down in compat libraries.

 

[Mellman]

Originally posted by: Brazen
Have you tried installing it on Centos 4? It might work, or it may at least tell you what dependancies it is missing and hunt them down in compat libraries.

ok, not to sound like an ass - but i didn't ask for alternatives...

the ONLY way this company will support the product is if its on 7.2 period.

I'd prefer to use other distro's but they WILL NOT support anything else. Welcome to the screwed up corporate world...

 

[gregor7777]

Originally posted by: Mellman


Google shows nothing but links that go at 10kb/s...

problem solved

 

[DasFox]

Mellman what application are you talking about?

I don't think you understand Linux.

Linux is Linux there is no such thing as Linux software that only runs on one particular Linux distro.

Linux code runs on any of them!

Now UNLESS we are talking about proprietary software and they won't release the code, then I do apologize for not understanding this, but then you never said what type of code this is either.

Next time be more specific, give the application name, etc.. you want.

But do understand, when you say next time I need an application for RedHat or any other distro, GENERALLY speaking, that is not how it works.

ALOHA

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: DasFox
Mellman what application are you talking about?

I don't think you understand Linux.

Linux is Linux there is no such thing as Linux software that only runs on one particular Linux distro.

Linux code runs on any of them!

You're joking right?

Now UNLESS we are talking about proprietary software and they won't release the code, then I do apologize for not understanding this, but then you never said what type of code this is either.

Maybe you should adjust your glasses.

 

[Mellman]

Originally posted by: DasFox
Mellman what application are you talking about?

I don't think you understand Linux.

Linux is Linux there is no such thing as Linux software that only runs on one particular Linux distro.

Linux code runs on any of them!

Now UNLESS we are talking about proprietary software and they won't release the code, then I do apologize for not understanding this, but then you never said what type of code this is either.

Next time be more specific, give the application name, etc.. you want.

But do understand, when you say next time I need an application for RedHat or any other distro, GENERALLY speaking, that is not how it works.

ALOHA

Apparently you didn't read my post. I DO understand how linux works. This is even a JAVA application! while yes, it should (and probably would) run on ANY linux flavor out there - that is NOT the point!

The application name is Appian. but that is besides the point.

This company, ONLY gives support if you run the application on RedHat 7.2

When your company is paying $100,000 for software and support...you'll use whatever version of software they tell you to.

Personally I'd prefer to just run it on windows - because this company doesn't know their /etc from their /dev when it comes to linux to be honest.

Originally posted by: gregor7777

Originally posted by: Mellman


Google shows nothing but links that go at 10kb/s...

problem solved

I'd like to have the install faster than 80 hours from now... because its slowed to 1.8KB/s per iso.

 

[drag]

Well then if your going to use it on Redhat 7.2 don't allow it near any networks.

If you do have to have it connected to a network have it's own little firewall'd lan setup seperate from everything else. You DO NOT want to have this thing discovered by some script kiddie or they will wreck havok on it.

Also try to look for other software that can do the same thing (after getting this thing setup, of course and you have time to look at a long-term solution) If a company requires you to use just a old unsecure version of software their stuff is probably badly programmed and I am almost certain you can find a better thing some were else.


edit:

Also if it's not something that requires high performance take a strong look at virtualization. Something like Qemu or Vmware will make it easy just to turn this thing into a application you start up and shutdown only when you need it. Also it will avoid hardware support hassles with something that old.

 

[drag]

[/quote]

I'd like to have the install faster than 80 hours from now... because its slowed to 1.8KB/s per iso.

[/quote]

You don't need all of them. Anything with 'SRPM' on it you don't need since it's just the source code (unless you want that).

Do a google search for enigma-i386-disc1.iso and enigma-i386-disc2.iso

I bet you can find a old mirror that way that will provide a much faster download.

 

[nweaver]

Ask your boss if he would insist on running an app on Windows95, because that is the equivilant of running this on 7.2. If you are paying $100,000 for support, then you damn well have a right to get it for a modern, properly secured, Operating system.

You can post here asking for a fast mirror, but understand that we are all going to hammer the responsibility of the action, because when your box gets owned (which it will, it's running insecure DNS, dhcp, Samba client daemons, insecure SSH servers, insecure X servers, etc) and hammers our networks with DDOS/Brute force/etc, we have to deal with that irresponsibility. How many fast mirrors can you find to Win95

 

[kamper]

Just out of curiosity, how do you plan to get java installed once you've got redhat? I doubt you'll get anything from sun that will work. This company ought to provide you with a copy themselves, have you asked them to mail you a disc?

And for $100K, wouldn't it work to support it yourself?

 

[postmortemIA]

what retarded "supporting" company is that?

Are you guys their only user?

 

[Nothinman]

I need red-hat 7.2 for this application we're installing.

A company I used to work for traveled that road a lot, always being several major revisions behind on their support and requiring boxes running RH72, RH AS21, etc and all it does is make more work for you and them. 1 major revision sure or maybe 2, but that's stretching it and now you want to go back 7 more? Even if you ignore Fedora releases and just consider RH AS releases 2.1 was based on 7.2 IIRC so that still puts you back 4 major revisions once AS 5 comes out in the next month or so. You never want to start out on an OS that old, no one will support you since the software is so old and you'll have one helluva time making everything work on your own. You'll be lucky if the thing will even install on a semi-recent box since most of the drivers won't recognize the new hardware. That can be worked around by using VMWare though if you really must do this.

And you had better hope that you don't have any security audit to pass because that box will fail every last one of them.

Ask your boss if he would insist on running an app on Windows95, because that is the equivilant of running this on 7.2.

Going by pure age it would be closer to Win2K since it looks like 7.2 was released in 2001 and ironically Win2K is still supported by MS, at least in the security department.

When your company is paying $100,000 for software and support...you'll use whatever version of software they tell you to.

Then they should provide the software too, you can't tell me that they don't have any of the ISOs laying around when it's the only release they'll support, right?

 

[Mellman]

Originally posted by: nweaver
Ask your boss if he would insist on running an app on Windows95, because that is the equivilant of running this on 7.2. If you are paying $100,000 for support, then you damn well have a right to get it for a modern, properly secured, Operating system.

You can post here asking for a fast mirror, but understand that we are all going to hammer the responsibility of the action, because when your box gets owned (which it will, it's running insecure DNS, dhcp, Samba client daemons, insecure SSH servers, insecure X servers, etc) and hammers our networks with DDOS/Brute force/etc, we have to deal with that irresponsibility. How many fast mirrors can you find to Win95

You're kidding right? you're telling me the box will be owned? riiiight...and pigs can fly...to the moon... lol wow...the ignorance of some people on these forums is astounding.

lol obviously none of you guys have ever worked in the gov't contracting world... welcome to government contracting!

This box sits behind many...many...corporate firewalls, so no script kiddies will get their hands on it...I don't think I ever said I was using this box for anything on a wan...i don't care about your stupid opinions on why I shouldn't use an OLD OS. I know its dumb that they only support red hat 7.2 but me whining about it isn't going to change a darn thing.

Oh - and virtualization - we do this, on almost all of our servers its quite handy. But this box we cannot use the free VM ware on - because this same company requires 16gb of ram for their application. VMware only supports 4GB of ram to the Guest OS's, regardless of the amount of ram setup in the machine. ESX Server ($$) does support 16GB of ram tot he Guest os's. We're looking into that because that would certainly be easier, but right now Virtual servers won't work.

Does it *actually* use that? no, but they require it because they do... We're not their only customer by far - they've done a lot of work for many many gov't agencies. Thank you Sarbanes-Oxley.

You guys do realize that there are still windows 95 boxes out there in the computing world don't you? lots of legacy systems, that people are too afraid to upgrade - or won't upgrade because it works how it is...

Thanks for nothing...all of you...

 

[n0cmonkey]

You're kidding right? you're telling me the box will be owned? riiiight...and pigs can fly...to the moon... lol wow...the ignorance of some people on these forums is astounding.

lol obviously none of you guys have ever worked in the gov't contracting world... welcome to government contracting!

This box sits behind many...many...corporate firewalls,

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hehe!

*snicker*

Hoho!

*giggle*

Fedral government for which country? It sure as hell isn't the United States of America's federal government. :laugh:

EDIT: Oops, I don't know where I came up with Fed from. Still applies though.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: Mellman

Originally posted by: nweaver
Ask your boss if he would insist on running an app on Windows95, because that is the equivilant of running this on 7.2. If you are paying $100,000 for support, then you damn well have a right to get it for a modern, properly secured, Operating system.

You can post here asking for a fast mirror, but understand that we are all going to hammer the responsibility of the action, because when your box gets owned (which it will, it's running insecure DNS, dhcp, Samba client daemons, insecure SSH servers, insecure X servers, etc) and hammers our networks with DDOS/Brute force/etc, we have to deal with that irresponsibility. How many fast mirrors can you find to Win95

You're kidding right? you're telling me the box will be owned? riiiight...and pigs can fly...to the moon... lol wow...the ignorance of some people on these forums is astounding.

lol obviously none of you guys have ever worked in the gov't contracting world... welcome to government contracting!

This box sits behind many...many...corporate firewalls, so no script kiddies will get their hands on it...I don't think I ever said I was using this box for anything on a wan...i don't care about your stupid opinions on why I shouldn't use an OLD OS. I know its dumb that they only support red hat 7.2 but me whining about it isn't going to change a darn thing.

Oh - and virtualization - we do this, on almost all of our servers its quite handy. But this box we cannot use the free VM ware on - because this same company requires 16gb of ram for their application. VMware only supports 4GB of ram to the Guest OS's, regardless of the amount of ram setup in the machine. ESX Server ($$) does support 16GB of ram tot he Guest os's. We're looking into that because that would certainly be easier, but right now Virtual servers won't work.

Does it *actually* use that? no, but they require it because they do... We're not their only customer by far - they've done a lot of work for many many gov't agencies. Thank you Sarbanes-Oxley.

You guys do realize that there are still windows 95 boxes out there in the computing world don't you? lots of legacy systems, that people are too afraid to upgrade - or won't upgrade because it works how it is...

Thanks for nothing...all of you...

Well apparently your such a expert at all this that you couldn't find old install cdroms.

It's very good advice to be paranoid about people owning the machine. Redhat 7.2 is inherently insecure and they are many known vunerabilities with it. You can't trust it on a network and if you think that several layers of 'corporate firewalls' is all it takes to protect you then I sincerly hope you setup a OpenBSD machine with Snort or some other IDS program to watch for that sort of thing. (because 'corporate firewalls' haven't realy stopped people in the past..)


Were I work we deal with the USPS and they have all sorts of bizzare things that they want us to do. For instance they wanted use to go out and buy a copy of some sort of Zip program to deal with their AES encryption. It's free for Windows and costs several thousand dollars for the Linux version. Screw that. Replaced it with a modifaction to the perl script they gave us and regular command line tools. It's free and now we don't have to have some loser sitting in front of a computer screen and pressing 'enter' and dragging some file to a network share after it's finished decrypting the dvd.


Whatever that program is that your buying I can pretty much garrentee you that it's going to realy realy suck.

 

[Mellman]

Originally posted by: drag

Originally posted by: Mellman

Originally posted by: nweaver
Ask your boss if he would insist on running an app on Windows95, because that is the equivilant of running this on 7.2. If you are paying $100,000 for support, then you damn well have a right to get it for a modern, properly secured, Operating system.

You can post here asking for a fast mirror, but understand that we are all going to hammer the responsibility of the action, because when your box gets owned (which it will, it's running insecure DNS, dhcp, Samba client daemons, insecure SSH servers, insecure X servers, etc) and hammers our networks with DDOS/Brute force/etc, we have to deal with that irresponsibility. How many fast mirrors can you find to Win95

You're kidding right? you're telling me the box will be owned? riiiight...and pigs can fly...to the moon... lol wow...the ignorance of some people on these forums is astounding.

lol obviously none of you guys have ever worked in the gov't contracting world... welcome to government contracting!

This box sits behind many...many...corporate firewalls, so no script kiddies will get their hands on it...I don't think I ever said I was using this box for anything on a wan...i don't care about your stupid opinions on why I shouldn't use an OLD OS. I know its dumb that they only support red hat 7.2 but me whining about it isn't going to change a darn thing.

Oh - and virtualization - we do this, on almost all of our servers its quite handy. But this box we cannot use the free VM ware on - because this same company requires 16gb of ram for their application. VMware only supports 4GB of ram to the Guest OS's, regardless of the amount of ram setup in the machine. ESX Server ($$) does support 16GB of ram tot he Guest os's. We're looking into that because that would certainly be easier, but right now Virtual servers won't work.

Does it *actually* use that? no, but they require it because they do... We're not their only customer by far - they've done a lot of work for many many gov't agencies. Thank you Sarbanes-Oxley.

You guys do realize that there are still windows 95 boxes out there in the computing world don't you? lots of legacy systems, that people are too afraid to upgrade - or won't upgrade because it works how it is...

Thanks for nothing...all of you...

Well apparently your such a expert at all this that you couldn't find old install cdroms.

It's very good advice to be paranoid about people owning the machine. Redhat 7.2 is inherently insecure and they are many known vunerabilities with it. You can't trust it on a network and if you think that several layers of 'corporate firewalls' is all it takes to protect you then I sincerly hope you setup a OpenBSD machine with Snort or some other IDS program to watch for that sort of thing. (because 'corporate firewalls' haven't realy stopped people in the past..)


Were I work we deal with the USPS and they have all sorts of bizzare things that they want us to do. For instance they wanted use to go out and buy a copy of some sort of Zip program to deal with their AES encryption. It's free for Windows and costs several thousand dollars for the Linux version. Screw that. Replaced it with a modifaction to the perl script they gave us and regular command line tools. It's free and now we don't have to have some loser sitting in front of a computer screen and pressing 'enter' and dragging some file to a network share after it's finished decrypting the dvd.


Whatever that program is that your buying I can pretty much garrentee you that it's going to realy realy suck.

If i wanted your opinion on the program I would've asked for it. Note how i didnt even give theI have no say in what the C people decide to waste their money on....

So thanks again for nothing, you can continue to waste your time because I don't care what you say... DUH...its an old OS, DUH, its got security issues... nothing is safe, blah blah blah....paranoid people...good god. If you think someone really is going to get on our network, i'd like to see you try lol.

I never claimed this application is good - I never claimed it was 'right' to run it on an old OS. Personally, I think its stupid - we should just run it on a windows box so we don't have to deal with A) this old red hat distro, B) their support people breaking the installer script every time they change something, and C) wasting money trying to get the damn thing to work on linux.

Again, perhaps next time you should READ the question being asked. I ALREADY KNOW that its old, I don't care - I need this iso - and this iso only, if I could use something else - I would have,

I just figured someone here may have known a good distribution site for it, and thats all I was asking, not for some 'know it all' to come post and tell me omg you are an idiot thats an old distribution you will get pwned by script kiddies OMG what crappy app are you using its going to suck and really really be bad blah blah blah bs bs bs..."

And thank you noc monkey for the link, much better speeds from that site!

 

[drag]

If you didn't care you wouldn't reply.

It's very obvious that you care quite a bit on what I have to say for some bizzare reason.

 

[Mellman]

Originally posted by: drag
If you didn't care you wouldn't reply.

It's very obvious that you care quite a bit on what I have to say for some bizzare reason.

QFT! sometimes one should read their own post

 

[jlbenedict]

Here you go, straight from the source (if you haven't tried this yet)

ftp://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.2/en/iso/i386/

I found it by ftp'ing into the main site, and then read the readme file in the main /pub directory:

"Older versions of Red Hat Linux have been moved to the following location:

ftp://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/"

 

[Mellman]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Here you go, straight from the source (if you haven't tried this yet)

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.2/en/iso/i386/">ftp://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/7.2/en/iso/i386/</a>

I found it by ftp'ing into the main site, and then read the readme file in the main /pub directory:

"Older versions of Red Hat Linux have been moved to the following location:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/">ftp://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/</a>"

Yeah noc monkey got me a link that worked like a champ

Thanks for those though - I did ftp to that archive site - but it was being slow yesterday - however today (at least from home) its faster 'n all hell! Part of the problem could've been my office network connection, some days it'll download at 2-3MB/sec for me, sometimes 100KB/sec...sometimes 10KB/sec. It also largely depends on where its grabbing things from. *shrug* not my network to run..

But thank you for the help!