Double Your Gas Mileage!

Eli

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Acetone will not double your gas milage, so get that idea out of your head right now.

However, it does help fuel vaporize and it will help clean deposits out of your engine.

You will see the best results in a carbureted engine.

Be careful, though.. More is not better. 2oz in 10 gallons is the limit, I would try 1.5oz first.
 

xanis

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Acetone doesn't improve your gas mileage, so don't even bother. However, if you're looking to clean some deposits and builup out of your engine, then it's useful.

 

Jeff7

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If it did, acetone would be a MUCH bigger industry. Or else the entire industry would be owned by OPEC.
 

TraumaRN

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Despite the crap about Acetone helping fuel economy...which it doesnt.

The other ideas are good ones for saving MPG, change your air filter, check your spark plugs, check your tire pressure and make sure to get em rotated, remove excess weight from your car/trunk. Although removing your spare is NOT the way to do that...
 

Evadman

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Acetone will damage some types of insulation on fuel injectors, which will ruin them. Injectors are all cooled by the fuel running theough them, and some types of injectors use only a type of paint on the coils as insulation (think magnet wire).
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Acetone will damage some types of insulation on fuel injectors, which will ruin them. Injectors are all cooled by the fuel running theough them, and some types of injectors use only a type of paint on the coils as insulation (think magnet wire).
...thus preventing your car from running, which will save you a LOT of gas.
 

JulesMaximus

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I cut my fuel consumption by 200% last week by riding my bike to work. In fact, today was the first time I drove my car since last Monday.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I cut my fuel consumption by 200% last week by riding my bike to work. In fact, today was the first time I drove my car since last Monday.



Now where's that damn cookie?
 

RU482

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I've been toying with an idea, but haven't had the nerve to try it yet.

I have one of those industrial ozone (3 molecules of oxygen) generators for mold remediation. It's powerful enough to make your lungs hurt with one slight breath.
Setting aside the harmful effects to the materials in the intake, I wonder if porting the output of this device into the air intake of a car (presumably a rental car) would have any effect on gas mileage
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: redly1
I've been toying with an idea, but haven't had the nerve to try it yet.

I have one of those industrial ozone (3 molecules of oxygen) generators for mold remediation. It's powerful enough to make your lungs hurt with one slight breath.
Setting aside the harmful effects to the materials in the intake, I wonder if porting the output of this device into the air intake of a car (presumably a rental car) would have any effect on gas mileage
Don't think it would.

Our gasoline is already overly oxygenated.
 

RU482

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: redly1
I've been toying with an idea, but haven't had the nerve to try it yet.

I have one of those industrial ozone (3 molecules of oxygen) generators for mold remediation. It's powerful enough to make your lungs hurt with one slight breath.
Setting aside the harmful effects to the materials in the intake, I wonder if porting the output of this device into the air intake of a car (presumably a rental car) would have any effect on gas mileage
Don't think it would.

Our gasoline is already overly oxygenated.

good point, but offsetting nitrogen with O3 would aid combustion, no?

 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: redly1
I've been toying with an idea, but haven't had the nerve to try it yet.

I have one of those industrial ozone (3 molecules of oxygen) generators for mold remediation. It's powerful enough to make your lungs hurt with one slight breath.
Setting aside the harmful effects to the materials in the intake, I wonder if porting the output of this device into the air intake of a car (presumably a rental car) would have any effect on gas mileage

Engine running differences aside, this presents a lot of challenge as the successful production of a stable stream of ozone rich air presents a challenge in a moving environment. All generators (whether uv-c or corona discharge) need either pure oxygen or very dry air to work effectively and reliably. For non oxygen input, dry air with at least a dewpoint of -50°C is recommended. The air also needs to be filtered of all particulate matter down to 1 micron. Regenerative dessicators are typically used in industrial applications but these are not suitable for mobile applications - particularly passenger automobiles! It would be possible to use a canister of silica gel with a pre and post filter but this would become saturated at typical flows in the 500 liter per hour range to generate 300-600 mg O3 per hour. Once the filter is saturated the dewpoint quickly rises to ambient and flow cell damage occurs.

03 also has a very high oxidation reduction potential (ORP); nearly twice that of chlorine! It attacks many plastics and especially rubber materials. If this is not taken into consideration the damage adds up quickly.

The portable units for disinfection produce far lower concentrations of O3. Even though it hurts to inhale the outflow, it's still quite weak. A good analogy would be comparing inhaling a bottle of cleaning ammonia to getting a taste of an R717 leak in a processing plant! :Q
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: redly1
I've been toying with an idea, but haven't had the nerve to try it yet.

I have one of those industrial ozone (3 molecules of oxygen) generators for mold remediation. It's powerful enough to make your lungs hurt with one slight breath.
Setting aside the harmful effects to the materials in the intake, I wonder if porting the output of this device into the air intake of a car (presumably a rental car) would have any effect on gas mileage

Engine running differences aside, this presents a lot of challenge as the successful production of a stable stream of ozone rich air presents a challenge in a moving environment. All generators (whether uv-c or corona discharge) need either pure oxygen or very dry air to work effectively and reliably. For non oxygen input, dry air with at least a dewpoint of -50°C is recommended. The air also needs to be filtered of all particulate matter down to 1 micron. Regenerative dessicators are typically used in industrial applications but these are not suitable for mobile applications - particularly passenger automobiles! It would be possible to use a canister of silica gel with a pre and post filter but this would become saturated at typical flows in the 500 liter per hour range to generate 300-600 mg O3 per hour. Once the filter is saturated the dewpoint quickly rises to ambient and flow cell damage occurs.

03 also has a very high oxidation reduction potential (ORP); nearly twice that of chlorine! It attacks many plastics and especially rubber materials. If this is not taken into consideration the damage adds up quickly.

The portable units for disinfection produce far lower concentrations of O3. Even though it hurts to inhale the outflow, it's still quite weak. A good analogy would be comparing inhaling a bottle of cleaning ammonia to getting a taste of an R717 leak in a processing plant! :Q
:laugh:

You are my hero.

 

RU482

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: redly1
I've been toying with an idea, but haven't had the nerve to try it yet.

I have one of those industrial ozone (3 molecules of oxygen) generators for mold remediation. It's powerful enough to make your lungs hurt with one slight breath.
Setting aside the harmful effects to the materials in the intake, I wonder if porting the output of this device into the air intake of a car (presumably a rental car) would have any effect on gas mileage

Engine running differences aside, this presents a lot of challenge as the successful production of a stable stream of ozone rich air presents a challenge in a moving environment. All generators (whether uv-c or corona discharge) need either pure oxygen or very dry air to work effectively and reliably. For non oxygen input, dry air with at least a dewpoint of -50°C is recommended. The air also needs to be filtered of all particulate matter down to 1 micron. Regenerative dessicators are typically used in industrial applications but these are not suitable for mobile applications - particularly passenger automobiles! It would be possible to use a canister of silica gel with a pre and post filter but this would become saturated at typical flows in the 500 liter per hour range to generate 300-600 mg O3 per hour. Once the filter is saturated the dewpoint quickly rises to ambient and flow cell damage occurs.

03 also has a very high oxidation reduction potential (ORP); nearly twice that of chlorine! It attacks many plastics and especially rubber materials. If this is not taken into consideration the damage adds up quickly.

The portable units for disinfection produce far lower concentrations of O3. Even though it hurts to inhale the outflow, it's still quite weak. A good analogy would be comparing inhaling a bottle of cleaning ammonia to getting a taste of an R717 leak in a processing plant! :Q

Hmm, so even though the O3 generator is "rated" at 6000mg/hr, I would guess it was "tested" under ideal, extremely dry conditions.

Just curious, any idea how to get the actual output of my generator measured?

FWIW, it does a good job at what it's intended for. Put it in a room that has mold problems and the mold goes from black to whiteish, and the room no longer smells like a dungeon.

 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: redly1

Hmm, so even though the O3 generator is "rated" at 6000mg/hr, I would guess it was "tested" under idea, extremely dry conditions.

Just curious, any idea how to get the actual output of my generator measured?

6g/hr is quite high and is rated so when it's used in FL with 75F DP it still has adequate output to do the job.

Measuring actual output is a lab procedure and requires the use of expensive equipment. The most common method is based on the Beer-Lambert principle.

 

dethman

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if you want to increase gas mileage draft behind a semi at 5 ft. it works. too bad you will get smushed into a pancake if the guy taps his brakes.