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glenn beck

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354529,00.html

ST. ANTHONY, Idaho ? A suspected illegal immigrant has been charged with raping a 10-year-old girl who later gave birth in eastern Idaho.

The girl gave birth less than two weeks ago by caesarian section at Madison Memorial Hospital in Rexburg, Fremont County Sheriff Ralph C. Davis and other authorities said. Officials would not disclose the gender, date of birth or paternity of the baby.

"I wouldn't have believed a 10-year-old could conceive in the first place," Davis said.

A hospital spokeswoman would not discuss the condition of the girl or the baby and would not say whether either was still in the hospital Wednesday.

The story was first reported by KIDK Television in Idaho Falls.

St. Anthony police began investigating on April 28 after medical officials reported a pregnant child, and Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez, 37, of St. Anthony, was arrested the same day, Police Chief James Smith said.

"We had good information from witnesses," Smith said.

In documents that were filed April 29 in 7th District Court and obtained by The Associated Press, Gutierrez-Juarez is charged with one count of rape. He remained in jail with bail set at $250,000 pending a preliminary hearing May 13.

Authorities said Gutierrez-Juarez did not have legal documentation to live in the United States. His home town and nationality were not immediately clear, but police said they had received no complaints about him before investigating the pregnancy.

The investigation was continuing. Smith would not give details on the condition of the girl but said additional counts of rape could be filed.

"The prosecutor is still considering doing that," he said.

Prosecutor Karl H. Lewies did not return telephone calls Wednesday from The AP.

Child protection laws prohibit the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare from confirming whether the agency was contacted about the case, spokesman Tom Shanahan said.

"In a situation like that, we probably would be contacted by the hospital," Shanahan said. "If there was a crime committed we would be working with local law enforcement."

If the girl's home is found to be unsafe, a custody hearing would be held immediately and the courts would decide where to place her, Shanahan said.

"If they decide the child needs foster care, we would do that immediately," he said.

While a 10-year-old giving birth is highly unusual, it is not impossible, said Laurie Krieger, a medical anthropologist in Washington D.C.

"We do know that girls in the U.S. are menstruating sooner," a development which can speed up the production of sex hormones and make pregnancy possible earlier than might have been thought likely, Kreiger said.

Nutrition, body mass and other factors, including the fact that children in the United States weigh more than in past generations, contribute to early menstruation, she added.


A 10 year old can give birth now???


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RadiclDreamer

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Im not so concerned with a 10 year being physically ABLE to get pregnant, but more so that an illegal immigrant was found to be raping her. Take that people who think we should let the poor SOB's stay here undocumented
 

jaqie

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This is indeed horrible, but there was record of a girl around 8 in a third world country giving birth after a somewhat similar incident, so I am not surprised at the physical possibility of a girl being able to at that young.
 

OutHouse

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why are you guys surprised? girls start their periods a different ages some as young as 8. if a girl is having periods she can get pregnant.
 

KMFJD

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I believe the record is 7-8 years old (somewhere in South America)
 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Im not so concerned with a 10 year being physically ABLE to get pregnant, but more so that an illegal immigrant was found to be raping her. Take that people who think we should let the poor SOB's stay here undocumented

i would be more concerned with anybody raping her. this is not about illegal immigration more so than a purely violent act by an individual against a child. please don't make this into something else it was not intended to be.
 

tigersty1e

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Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Im not so concerned with a 10 year being physically ABLE to get pregnant, but more so that an illegal immigrant was found to be raping her. Take that people who think we should let the poor SOB's stay here undocumented

i would be more concerned with anybody raping her. this is not about illegal immigration more so than a purely violent act by an individual against a child. please don't make this into something else it was not intended to be.

Yes, there's a more sad incident about the rape...

But you can't deny the fact that it was an illegal immigrant who isn't even supposed to be here.

Hence, the appropiate title.... double WTF.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Im not so concerned with a 10 year being physically ABLE to get pregnant, but more so that an illegal immigrant was found to be raping her. Take that people who think we should let the poor SOB's stay here undocumented

ah yes. b/c only illegal immigrants will rape 10 year-old girls. Criminal history in this country is valid proof of that argument...

send them back home, and we can confidently close the book on any future instances of child rape, as they would cease to occur.
 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Im not so concerned with a 10 year being physically ABLE to get pregnant, but more so that an illegal immigrant was found to be raping her. Take that people who think we should let the poor SOB's stay here undocumented

i would be more concerned with anybody raping her. this is not about illegal immigration more so than a purely violent act by an individual against a child. please don't make this into something else it was not intended to be.

Yes, there's a more sad incident about the rape...

But you can't deny the fact that it was an illegal immigrant who isn't even supposed to be here.

Hence, the appropiate title.... double WTF.

I don't believe the OP's reference to the double WTF was about the illegal immigrant at all. i believe it's about the fact that she gave birth as a 10 year old.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: maziwanka
get rid of immigrants!

no no no! just the illegal ones! see, it's less disturbing to people if it was a legal immigrant that commits the rape. We'd all feel much better about ourselves.
 

glenn beck

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Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Im not so concerned with a 10 year being physically ABLE to get pregnant, but more so that an illegal immigrant was found to be raping her. Take that people who think we should let the poor SOB's stay here undocumented

i would be more concerned with anybody raping her. this is not about illegal immigration more so than a purely violent act by an individual against a child. please don't make this into something else it was not intended to be.

Yes, there's a more sad incident about the rape...

But you can't deny the fact that it was an illegal immigrant who isn't even supposed to be here.

Hence, the appropiate title.... double WTF.

I don't believe the OP's reference to the double WTF was about the illegal immigrant at all. i believe it's about the fact that she gave birth as a 10 year old.

Nope, actually that is what the double wtf was for. But the post is more for the fact
that I had no idea a 10 year old could give birth or just never thought of something like that happening
 

Wheezer

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There are several reasons that this story that make me physically ill.

1- a grown man finds it acceptable to have sex with a 10 year old child.

2- a 10 year old child was raped.

I really really hope that this man dies a slow horrible death.

There should be a remote nuclear test island somewhere in the pacific we can deposit these "people" and continue to test WMD's either nuclear, chemical or biological and have them suffer immeasurably for the rest of their lives.

Cruel and unusual punishment?...maybe.

Well deserved punishment?....hell yes.
 

Ktulu

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sutahz

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The fact they suspect an illegal of causing the pregnancy is just a side not. This is ATOT so people can take whatever they want from this story.
Too bad the police didn't have a no-knock warrant when they went to go arrest him.
 

amdhunter

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Originally posted by: glenn beck
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354529,00.html

ST. ANTHONY, Idaho ? A suspected illegal immigrant has been charged with raping a 10-year-old girl who later gave birth in eastern Idaho.

The girl gave birth less than two weeks ago by caesarian section at Madison Memorial Hospital in Rexburg, Fremont County Sheriff Ralph C. Davis and other authorities said. Officials would not disclose the gender, date of birth or paternity of the baby.

"I wouldn't have believed a 10-year-old could conceive in the first place," Davis said.

A hospital spokeswoman would not discuss the condition of the girl or the baby and would not say whether either was still in the hospital Wednesday.

The story was first reported by KIDK Television in Idaho Falls.

St. Anthony police began investigating on April 28 after medical officials reported a pregnant child, and Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez, 37, of St. Anthony, was arrested the same day, Police Chief James Smith said.

"We had good information from witnesses," Smith said.

In documents that were filed April 29 in 7th District Court and obtained by The Associated Press, Gutierrez-Juarez is charged with one count of rape. He remained in jail with bail set at $250,000 pending a preliminary hearing May 13.

Authorities said Gutierrez-Juarez did not have legal documentation to live in the United States. His home town and nationality were not immediately clear, but police said they had received no complaints about him before investigating the pregnancy.

The investigation was continuing. Smith would not give details on the condition of the girl but said additional counts of rape could be filed.

"The prosecutor is still considering doing that," he said.

Prosecutor Karl H. Lewies did not return telephone calls Wednesday from The AP.

Child protection laws prohibit the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare from confirming whether the agency was contacted about the case, spokesman Tom Shanahan said.

"In a situation like that, we probably would be contacted by the hospital," Shanahan said. "If there was a crime committed we would be working with local law enforcement."

If the girl's home is found to be unsafe, a custody hearing would be held immediately and the courts would decide where to place her, Shanahan said.

"If they decide the child needs foster care, we would do that immediately," he said.

While a 10-year-old giving birth is highly unusual, it is not impossible, said Laurie Krieger, a medical anthropologist in Washington D.C.

"We do know that girls in the U.S. are menstruating sooner," a development which can speed up the production of sex hormones and make pregnancy possible earlier than might have been thought likely, Kreiger said.

Nutrition, body mass and other factors, including the fact that children in the United States weigh more than in past generations, contribute to early menstruation, she added.


A 10 year old can give birth now???

Any girl is capable of giving birth when puberty kicks in.
 

GTaudiophile

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For the record, I do condone abortion in cases of rape and incest. I wonder why this was not given to her as an option.

Very sad state of affairs.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
For the record, I do condone abortion in cases of rape and incest. I wonder why this was not given to her as an option.

Very sad state of affairs.

i agree. the difficult consideration here is what would be the largest mental toll on this girl? giving birth at 10 yrs-old or having an abortion at that age? not that experiencing a rape at that age has already caused some significant damage...

 

waggy

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I'm surprised we don't hear more stories of kids getting pregnant. girls are maturing (physically) at a earlier age then ever before. read where the average age of a girl starting her period is 12.

Also seems its getting harder to tell the age of girls. They are more mature, dress like older girls and look like it.

when my wife was working at a elementary school i would go in and pick her up. i was amazed at how old some of the girls look. oddly the boys still look like goofy young boys.


wonder why that is? girls seem to mature earlier and boys haven't.