double-sided vs single-sided RAM

[hardwareuser]

I know double sided RAM has the modules on both sides, but are the commonly sold RAM nowadays single-sided or double-sided? Also, people say you can't run double-sided with 1T? Does that only apply if you have 4 sticks?

I'm planning on building and overclocking this:

3200+ Venice
DFI Ultra-D
OCZ Value 1GB (2x512) ?
X800XL
160GB Western Digital SATA II
some cheapo 450W power supply ?

 

[zerocool84]

yea i never see single sided RAM at all

 

[Matt2]

Rev. E processors should run 2 sticks of RAM @ 1T just fine. I think it's when you pop in 4 sticks it kicks down to 2T, but the difference really is negligable from what I've seen.

I'm building the exact same system except a 3000+ Venice. Don't skimp on the power supply or you will regret it.

IN fact all I'm waiting on is my Fortron BlueStorm 500w PS. Everything else is installed and the PS should come tomorrow... *wipes drool from face*

 

[hardwareuser]

*wipes drool from face*

lol

Thanks.

I'm just really reluctant on spending 90 bucks on a power supply. That's a lot of money.

 

[SrGuapo]

Originally posted by: hardwareuser

*wipes drool from face*

lol

Thanks.

I'm just really reluctant on spending 90 bucks on a power supply. That's a lot of money.

Think of it lkie an insurance policy. Cheapo PSUs often have very weak rails that tend to fluctuate, which could cause instability. Also, They can "blow up" and destroy parts of your system. You definately want to spend over $60 on a PSU...

 

[PerfeK]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Rev. E processors should run 2 sticks of RAM @ 1T just fine. I think it's when you pop in 4 sticks it kicks down to 2T

Wrong. Venice cores can run with all banks full at full speed.

 

[hardwareuser]

If they can, that's great

Can somebody please suggest a cheap but decent power supply for my system?

 

[imported_Husky55]

I have the Fortron Blue Storm 500W ATX12V V2.0, super quiet <23DB and have not regretted purchasing it. It is really a quality product.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: PerfeK

Originally posted by: Matt2
Rev. E processors should run 2 sticks of RAM @ 1T just fine. I think it's when you pop in 4 sticks it kicks down to 2T

Wrong. Venice cores can run with all banks full at full speed.

still 2t

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
yea i never see single sided RAM at all

QFA

 

[rise]

i heard crucial makes some but i never looked at it. 2t means very little in real world performance on the a64, 1-3% in most and 1% in cames from what i ran.

do a search in cpu/oc'ing and zebo had a thread onit. dfi street has had similar discussions.

 

[suicidalpigeon]

Originally posted by: hardwareuser
If they can, that's great

Can somebody please suggest a cheap but decent power supply for my system?

xclio 450w

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: wafflesandsyrup

Originally posted by: hardwareuser
If they can, that's great

Can somebody please suggest a cheap but decent power supply for my system?

xclio 450w

for stock its ok, but if you're oc'ing, the dfi will choke that psu. it did mine anyway. spend the exra 20$ and get an enermax, antec or the fortron 500.

 

[Quasmo]

Yeah, right now I have Corsair 2-2-2-5 chips... and they fill 2 out of the 3 banks I have on my board. When I put another double sided stick on the board it will step the ram down from 400mhz to 333mhz. Would it be possible to put a stick of single sided ram in the third slot and still be able to run at 400mhz? Board is the Asus K8V SE Deluxe.

 

[hardwareuser]

Is it cheaper to buy a PSU online or outside?

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: PerfeK

Originally posted by: Matt2
Rev. E processors should run 2 sticks of RAM @ 1T just fine. I think it's when you pop in 4 sticks it kicks down to 2T

Wrong. Venice cores can run with all banks full at full speed.

AnandTech tested this, this is not true. Venice(Rev. E) CPUs still drop down to 2T.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Quasmo
Yeah, right now I have Corsair 2-2-2-5 chips... and they fill 2 out of the 3 banks I have on my board. When I put another double sided stick on the board it will step the ram down from 400mhz to 333mhz. Would it be possible to put a stick of single sided ram in the third slot and still be able to run at 400mhz? Board is the Asus K8V SE Deluxe.

I have an ABIT KV8 where I've done exactly this, and am running 3 sticks at 400mhz(1T command rate too!); 2 GEIL 512MB sticks, and a 1GB Kingston. That said, this is not supported and I have to set the dividers to what I wanted to do this, but it seems to work fine. But as long as it's not supported, there is no guarantee that this will work for you, I may have just gotten lucky.

 

[SkaarjMaster]

I have no idea how much that Fortron PSU is, but you might look at the Enermax 460W PSU as well with 33 amps on the +12V rail.

 

[Budman]

I am running 2 sticks of DS 512 megs crucial pc3200 using 1T with a Newcastle core.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Crucial does indeed make some single-sided RAM. Here is an example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146541

I run 2 of these at 1T in a socket 754 board. You should be able to run 4 of those on a Venice at 1T. However, I haven't seen any other single-sided DIMMS out there. It seems wiser to get a pair of 1-gig DIMMs instead.

 

[angstsoldat]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103937

Anything wrong with that PSU??

Oh yeah is "single sided" RAM better or is it outdated

 

[imported_Kensai]

Originally posted by: PerfeK

Originally posted by: Matt2
Rev. E processors should run 2 sticks of RAM @ 1T just fine. I think it's when you pop in 4 sticks it kicks down to 2T

Wrong. Venice cores can run with all banks full at full speed.

Wrong. Venice cores can run four banks of memory at only 2T.

 

[angstsoldat]

Kensai you broke the tradition you replied after me

 

[angstsoldat]

 

[lxskllr]

From what I've read around the web, the Fortron Bluestorm is among the best in it's price range. That's what I'm using and couldn't be happier.