Double sided VS Single sided memory ~ the holy grail

THUGSROOK

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is there a difference? (canterwood / springdale)

here's a few sets of my benchmarks that ive posted in various (previous) threads that shows 2x doublesided is faster then 2x singlesided....


KHX3000 vs XMS3200

* P4 2.53B @ 180fsb
* GF4600
* P4P800 turbo MAM 2226 (springdale)
* KHX3000 2x 512mb 6ns pc2700 (2 sided)
* XMS3200 2x 256mb 5ns pc3200 (1 sided)


> 3DMark2001 <
2x 2 sided = 16078
2x 1 sided = 15995



KHX3000 vs KHX3500

* P4 2.53B @ 182fsb
* GF4600
* IC7 nbs800 street racer c2226 (canterwood)
* KHX3000 2x 512mb 6ns pc2700 (2 sided)
* KHX3500 2x 256mb 5ns pc3200 (1 sided)


> 3DMark2001 <
2x 2 sided = 16375
2x 1 sided = 16292

> X-Isle Tech Demo < 1024x768
2x 2 sided = 142.8
2x 1 sided = 142.3

> UT2003 Demo < 1024x768, flyby --- botmatch
2x 2 sided = 199.4 --- 91.7
2x 1 sided = 199.0 --- 90.5

> Quake III v1.32 < 1152x864
2x 2 sided = 318.3
2x 1 sided = 316.3

> Aida32 <
2x 2 sided = 5090 / 2208
2x 1 sided = 5083 / 1297


even this short amount of testing clearly shows a consistant difference between single and double sided memory on Springdale and Canterwood motherboards. so there is definately some truth to this.

is it worth spending huge $ on new ram? no
but if youre gonna buy ~ buy right and get doublesided :D

:)
 

pelikan

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Thanks for posting your benches. Its a good addition to the article. This is the kind of info. that helps as I get closer to upgrading to a p4c/canterwood.
 

lchyi

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Ahh cool, thanks Thugs, I was surprised though that Anandtech just decided to come out with that article recently. Up until now I was always told that 2 sided was better, guess this just confirms it hehe. Go KHX users.

PS: You once told me that KHX3000 was their product specification code for their PC2700 ram. Are you sure? I have Hyper-x PC2700 and mine says KHX2700.
 

oldfart

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is it worth spending huge $ on new ram? no
but if youre gonna buy ~ buy right and get doublesided :D
Agree. The difference is < 1%. Nothing that you would ever notice. If you are buying mem, 2 x 512 is the way to go anyway. 512 sticks are always 2 sided AFAIK.

You should post your results Here as well.
 

THUGSROOK

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You once told me that KHX3000 was their product specification code for their PC2700 ram. Are you sure? I have Hyper-x PC2700 and mine says KHX2700.
KHX2700 and KHX3000 both have 6ns pc2700 chips.

oldfart ~ ill post a linky

:)
 

Icewind

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The differences are actually bigger, but I forgot the damn link...shoot. it was a good one too
 

wicktron

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AFAIK, the only double sided 256mb sticks are the OCZ PC3700/PC4000 Gold... If anybody knows of any other DS 256mb sticks, LMK.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: wixt0r
AFAIK, the only double sided 256mb sticks are the OCZ PC3700/PC4000 Gold... If anybody knows of any other DS 256mb sticks, LMK.

yes i'm curious as well... thanks!
 

phpdog

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is corsair 256 3200 xms double sided - it has 4 chips on each side . Its just i heard it registers as single sided in memtest .
 

Overkiller

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no it is single sided as far as i know even though it has chips on both sides. its one of those *weird things*
 

Cenarius

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I believe "double-sided" is a term that has been used for years to describe RAM with 16 chips (non-ECC), 8 per side, so 8 chips is single-sided, but for cheaper manufacturing (smaller PCB), sometimes they put 4 on each side. Nothing weird about that!
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK

KHX2700 and KHX3000 both have 6ns pc2700 chips.
Well, that explains why my PC2700 HyperX was able to take 8 hours of SiSoft Memory burn-in and 24 hours of Prime95 without a single crash at 180MHz. I think I will try for 185MHz next.

Anyone here have good luck getting KHZ2700 up to or over 185MHz?