Dothan core = amazing

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

I like how this has become the new bandwagon to jump on. MHz still means quite a lot actually, and will always mean a lot. Building more efficient CPU's appears to be the new way of doing things as opposed to brute force, and is certainly a good idea. However, no matter how efficient the CPU gets and how many operations it can perform per clock cycle, it will always do more at a faster clock cycle. This, of course, is obvious. Personally, I think that the focus on effiency vs. clockspeed will most likely go in cycles. A new tech will make procs more efficient, then they will do all they can to ramp the speeds up until they hit a roadblock, then back to the drawing board for more efficiency...

re-read his original post, my comment was tailored to his posts, it was not impling an overall fact. he was sayings its unimpressive because its not running 3ghz,which is a pretty misinformed post.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Nice troll, IntelInside. I can see that you aren't biased or anything.

Anyway

This handy link

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://arstechnica.com/cpu/004/prescott-future/prescott-1.html
">http://arstechnica.com/cpu/004...e/prescott-1.html
</a>

as provided to me some time ago by the noble Zebo shows that the "future of Intel's CPUs" could still very well be based on the Netburst architecture. Yes, dual-core Prescotts. Bleh. Ugh. Thhpt.

Read the entire article, you'll see what I mean.

I would much rather see dual-core Dothans. Is Intel going to bring that to us? Sadly, apparently not, unless they change their mind again. They seem to have been doing that a lot lately.

 

[Zebo]

IntelUser2000..excellent summation of results...I aprreciate it... but you're forgetting about cool and quiet and 90nm is supposed to cut power more than that...we already have 35W opterons in 120nm called EE and HE's....I suspect well get down to 20W with everything combined CQ and 90nm. Anyway it's all mute right now because.

We all know pentium-M lappys are the way to go for power req and decent performance..the cost is a bit out of line but how do you put a price on batt life? We all know if you're lame enuogh to want a lappy gaming system A64 is the way to go. Most sane people relize a laptop is only good for watching movies on the plane, basic office tasks, and checking mail and any probably should buy any laptop under a grand to fullfill these needs which excludes both of these.

If and when pentium3 comes back on the desktop then we can debate the merits of this chip. Until then, ya it's nice lappy... expensive and slow compared to desktops...what else can you say until it arrives? if it ever does. I hope it does, yet another chip to do price/performance analysis on.

 

[hytek369]

that is pretty nutz

 

[cbehnken]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024

Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy<BR>

Originally posted by: chuwawa<BR>You missed my point entirely. The fact that it can run without a HS at 800mhz doesn't mean that it can run without one at 2ghz+ or that it can even reach those speeds. <BR><BR>Until it gets there, don't get excited.

<BR><BR>i think YOU missed the point.<BR><BR>it runs 1.7ghz without a fan, just a passive heatsink.<BR><BR>people have run it at 2.4ghz with mild modifications since it runs so cool. at those speeds its more powerful than a 3.4 P4EE or FX51(and probably less than 1/6th the heat and power). they have been selling 2ghz versions since it came out which hasn't been very long at all.<BR><BR>this core seems to be superior to Intels desktop offerings in every respect and i can't understand why they don't bump the prescott from their road map.<BR><BR>again, MHZ doesn't mean jack, now stop thread sh*tting.

<BR><BR>Finally someone gets it!<BR><BR><BR>As for releasing this to the desktop, I think Intel is afraid to rebuff their own DT department's past 5 years of work to replace it with this little dynamo.<BR><BR>The Banias/Dothan team have the right idea though: design smarter, not faster.<BR><BR>The P4 was a calculated gamble and it has been, for the most part, sucessful. Originally a flop, the Northwood-equipped P4 was a powerful comeback for Intel. Prescott is probably the worst die shrink for intel so far, though.<BR><BR>If you think back to the P3, it didn't hit a roadblock nearly as bad as Prescott. The P3 went from .25um to .18um (coppermine) very smoothly, and then much later (and after it's prime) to the .13 tualatin, which was itself a solid chip (and allowed for the last generation of worthwhile Celerons, the 256K Tualerons ).

Why does everything think the 256K "Tualerons" are better than the 256 K Northwood Mobile Celerons? Almost all reviews are of 128 K desktop celerons. The mobile version is 256 K and does not suffer nearly as much as the desktop processor.

 

[cbehnken]

Originally posted by: IntelInside
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Originally posted by: carlosd
Intel won't put those processors on the desktop. They still believe in that stupid MHz marketing myth.
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Hmm... So that's why they release marketing guides showing how the 1.3Ghz Pentium-M is faster than a 2.53Ghz P4-M? Oh, and that's why they have started processor numbers which take into account more that Ghz? Oh, and that's why Intel are basing the future of their processors around the Pentium-M architechure?

Typical AMD fanboy.. Can't see the forest for the trees.

Nice system though... Shame about the processor.

BAN Arrogant RUDE Intel Fanboy!
Take sig into account

 

[caz67]

Very nice indeed..Should be very interesting..