Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars...

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(CNSNews.com) - The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), a division of the federal government’s National Institutes of Health (NIH), has spent $3,634,807 over the past decade funding research that involves getting monkeys to smoke and drink drugs such as PCP, methamphetamine (METH), heroin, and cocaine and then studying their behavior, including during different phases of the female monkeys’ menstrual cycles.
The study also uses “interventions” as “treatment models” for monkeys who have been taught to use drugs.
NIDA wins CNSNews.com's "What Were They Smoking Award"—symbolized by The Golden Hookah (see video)—for sponsoring an outrageous government spending program that sends taxpayer dollars up in smoke.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/feds-spent-36-million-research-studies-d
 

Leros

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$3.6 million over a decade really isn't that much money. That's a few researchers and their equipment.
 

Mike Gayner

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ITT: Tea baggers who think science just happens, and breakthroughs always occur when we know exactly what we're looking for.
 

preslove

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(CNSNews.com) - The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), a division of the federal government’s National Institutes of Health (NIH), has spent $3,634,807 over the past decade funding research that involves getting monkeys to smoke and drink drugs such as PCP, methamphetamine (METH), heroin, and cocaine and then studying their behavior, including during different phases of the female monkeys’ menstrual cycles.
The study also uses “interventions” as “treatment models” for monkeys who have been taught to use drugs.
NIDA wins CNSNews.com's "What Were They Smoking Award"—symbolized by The Golden Hookah (see video)—for sponsoring an outrageous government spending program that sends taxpayer dollars up in smoke.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/feds-spent-36-million-research-studies-d

You are quite obviously an idiot.
 
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who knows what exactly there were studying. getting grants is not easy. i assume this is just sensationalism that OP got pwnd by.
 

dighn

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simply outrageous wasting that much on monkey business. should have done the tests on humans instead.
 

goog40

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Damn, do they get hookers too? And more importantly, where do I sign up to be a test subject?
 

Gibsons

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$3.6 million over a decade really isn't that much money. That's a few researchers and their equipment.

Most especially if that research is on primates. That gets really expensive really fast. We can thank PETA for some of that.
 

Jeff7

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CNSNews.com is a division of the Media Research Center, a not-for-profit 501 (c)(3) organization.
Media Research Center
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ITT: Tea baggers who think science just happens, and breakthroughs always occur when we know exactly what we're looking for.
It seems that's a common view, unfortunately. Any spending on anything science-related is "wasted" if it doesn't have any immediate applications.
My favorite story is one that Carl Sagan used, concerning people wasting their time studying magnetism and electrons. Invisible fields and particles smaller than atoms? What possible use could come from those things? :D

And they probably get a lot of their ideas about how science works from TV shows, where someone pretty well says, "I need you to discover X in the next 5 hours," and the scientist cheerfully obliges, often "creating a new form of math" in the process.
 
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Most especially if that research is on primates. That gets really expensive really fast. We can thank PETA for some of that.

What? PETA isn't the reason research on primates cost so much. Simple Scientific ethics and the need for good results is why primates aren't tossed around and given good treatment.
 

Gibsons

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What? PETA isn't the reason research on primates cost so much. Simple Scientific ethics and the need for good results is why primates aren't tossed around and given good treatment.

Place where I worked had to put in many tens of thousands of dollars worth of security equipment to keep the morons out, not counting extra manpower. They managed to destroy a reinforced steel door once trying to get in. And that was just for rats and mice.
 

Schadenfroh

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Why use monkeys when we have Americans who have to brew "bathtub morphine" to get by day by day? It is such a cruel world when animals have it made better than our fellow countryman.
 

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OP simply does not seem to have a working understanding of what basic research is.

Lacking such, he is buying into idiot right-wing know-nothingism.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Why use monkeys when we have Americans who have to steep to making "bathtub morphine" to get by day by day? It is such a cruel world when animals have it made better than our fellow countryman.

Yes... because it is easy to test drugs on an addict, who has sworn that they definitely aren't using any other drug. Honest!
 

Analog

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OP simply does not seem to have a working understanding of what basic research is.


Lemme check on my bookcase - yup, I did a 5th year thesis in my BSEE degree, an MSEE thesis, and the big kahuna for the PhD. You're right, I have no idea what basic research is. Better go back to 1992 and re-defend my dissertation!
:D:hmm:
 

khon

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Are they supposed to study the effects of drugs with human test subjects ?

Seems to me that using the animals most closely related to us makes perfect sense, and there is obviously a lot of value to be gained in finding out exactly how drugs affect our bodies, and what can be done about it.
 

sdifox

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Place where I worked had to put in many tens of thousands of dollars worth of security equipment to keep the morons out, not counting extra manpower. They managed to destroy a reinforced steel door once trying to get in. And that was just for rats and mice.

steel corridor, tazer matrix in the walls. problem solved. oh, film and upload to youtube :biggrin:
 

yhelothar

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I'd much rather have taxpayer dollars spent on this research rather than spent on locking drug abusers up in prisons.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Lemme check on my bookcase - yup, I did a 5th year thesis in my BSEE degree, an MSEE thesis, and the big kahuna for the PhD. You're right, I have no idea what basic research is. Better go back to 1992 and re-defend my dissertation!
:D:hmm:


So it's a troll thread then?