doom3

[JonnyBlaze]

anyone played the alpha? what type of frame rates did you get?

i got some screenshots here. the rates seem to get pretty low sometimes:

link

Matt

 

[LesPaul]

When I had my 9700 pro in, i was getting around 10 average, but got as low as 2 and as high as ~25-30. The rest of my machine sucks though..

1.0 T-bird
VIA KT133 chipset board
512MB PC133
5400 RPM Maxtor 40GB drive

^^^ That's the biggest reason mine's so low.

btw, that's with AA and AF off.. The alpha version I have doesn't let me change any settings, so..

 

[JonnyBlaze]

my "max" screenshot was with the highquality.cfg loaded and my ati drivers on the best possible settings.

so i guess that isnt too bad. im going to keep playing with it and see how good i can get it.

Matt

 

[LesPaul]

ah, I didn't know about those different configs you can load. Thanks, i'll have to play around with it some more.

 

[Turkish]

uhhh so compared to games like counter strike running at 100 fps, that's very low, or do they use a different scale for it?

Thanks.

 

[Matt84]

where can u get the doom 3 alpha coz i've been wanting to give it a go but can't find it anywhere

 

[FluxCap]

I have the same question, wasn't the alpha a "leak"? So, if you have it, it's illegal? If not, I would like to see how it runs.

 

[Harabecw]

its illegal. it was leaked out by ATI.

 

[CJP]

It ran ok on my geforce 3 ti-500/pentium 4 1.8ghz at the low default resolution when there was no action but when there was action it got pretty jerky.

 

[Turkish]

i am sure you can download it off from an ftp site but it's illegal to have it.

 

[LesPaul]

Of course its alot lower FPS than in CS... the HL engine is ancient, with ancient graphics, very easy to render for today's cards.. Doom3 uses some of the latest graphical technologies to render sweet scenes.. just compare those graphics to Counterstrike's and you should be able to tell, lol. You'll need the top of the line card (not to mention the rest of your puter) to run this game smoothly with high settings. Counterstrike runs perfectly smooth with my old geforce2 mx and other 3+ year old components.

 

[BoomAM]

Ive managed to "aqquire" it.
It runs ok on my 9700pro. It occasionally drops to below 25fps, sometimes as low as 15fps, but most of the time, it stays above 30fps. For a SDR system, that aint too bad.
But remember that its just an alpha, we`ve seen from the Doom3 benchmarks off AnandTech/TomsHardware/HardOCP, that its been quite a bit optimised since the alpha was leaked, most cards above a 9500 seem to be getting respectable frame rates at 1024x768.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Are you people stupid? This has been covered before.

Discussing the illegally leaked E3 Alpha is grounds for iD to sue Anandtech.

- M4H

 

[BoomAM]

Actually, as long as we dont say where to get it from, we can discuss it as much as we want. Ive been warned before, and know the full details of do`s and donts regarding Doom3.

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Actually, if you discuss it again, it will be on another forum, either because you were smart enough not to post it on ours, or because your account, here, is locked. Your choice.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[FluxCap]

Discussing the illegally leaked E3 Alpha is grounds for iD to sue Anandtech.

That is why I brought it up.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
Actually, as long as we dont say where to get it from, we can discuss it as much as we want. Ive been warned before, and know the full details of do`s and donts regarding Doom3.

Originally posted by: SpeedKing
where can u get the doom 3 alpha coz i've been wanting to give it a go but can't find it anywhere

And trust me - you do not know the do's and don'ts of discussing Doom III. They are singular.

"Don't."

Unless iD went and lifted their NDA and it somehow didn't get announced everywhere, discussions have to be limited to publicly released material (select screenies, previews, and trailers). Saying that you have the alpha is about as dumb as walking into the RIAA with a brand new, fully-loaded 30GB iPod.

- M4H

 

[BoomAM]

Theres is nothing wrong with disscussing the alpha, how to set it up, changes res`s, ect;.
ID cannot sue for discussing how it works. It can sue if we tell people where to get it. Which we are not. So we are fine.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

nda's are for people that have signed them.

theres websites all over the web that help install it, configure it and tel lyou every console command.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
nda's are for people that have signed them.

theres websites all over the web that help install it, configure it and tel lyou every console command.

There's also websites where you can download images of underage individuals engaged in sexual activity.

Do you condone that as well?

- M4H

 

[JonnyBlaze]

have you seen me post anything about that kind if ish? i guess not then.

 

[BoomAM]

The fact of the matter is that aslong as we dont tell people where to get the alpha from, then we are fine. ok. perfectly legal. above board. No back handers.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Uh, no.

You're still in possession of iD software's IP (Intellectual Property).

And you're posting screenshots of it.

And small wonder that all the sites linked to by /.'s article on the D3 leak have been taken down by iD/Activision.

Not only that, but you're making pointless judgements on a buggy alpha. Ooh, you get XXfps in v0.02 ... I'm sure that translates right over into the real game's performance.

No, this was not leaked on purpose.

Yes, we are upset about it, and it will have some impact on how we deal with some companies in the future, but nothing drastic is going to change in terms of what support is going to be available.

Making any judgements from a snapshot intended for a non-interactive demo is ill advised.

John Carmack

- M4H

 

[JonnyBlaze]

Not only that, but you're making pointless judgements on a buggy alpha. Ooh, you get XXfps in v0.02 ... I'm sure that translates right over into the real game's performance.

you should told all the sites that benchmarked it that it was pointless.

why dont you just stay out of the discussion if you dont like whats being talked about. you seem to be taking ish personally....

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze

Not only that, but you're making pointless judgements on a buggy alpha. Ooh, you get XXfps in v0.02 ... I'm sure that translates right over into the real game's performance.

you should told all the sites that benchmarked it that it was pointless.

why dont you just stay out of the discussion if you dont like whats being talked about. you seem to be taking ish personally....

Reading comprehension must not be your strong point.

John Carmack to Anandtech reviewer:
"We have been planning to put together a proper pre-release of Doom for benchmarking purposes, but we have just been too busy with actual game completion. The executable and data that is being shown was effectively lifted at a random point in the development process, and shows some obvious issues with playback, but we believe it to be a fair and unbiased data point. We would prefer to show something that carefully highlights the best visual aspects of our work, but we recognize the importance of providing a benchmark for comparison purposes at this time, so we are allowing it to be used for this particular set of tests. We were not happy with the demo that Nvidia prepared, so we recorded a new one while they were here today. This is an important point -- while I'm sure Nvidia did extensive testing, and knew that their card was going to come out comfortably ahead with the demo they prepared, right now, they don't actually know if the demo that we recorded for them puts them in the best light. Rather nervy of them, actually.

The Nvidia card will be fastest with "r_renderer nv30", while the ATI will be a tiny bit faster in the "r_renderer R200" mode instead of the "r_renderer ARB2" mode that it defaults to (which gives some minor quality improvements). The "gfxinfo" command will dump relevant information about the functioning renderer modes and optimizations. At some point, after we have documented all of the options and provided multiple datasets, Doom is going to be an excellent benchmarking tool, but for now you can still make some rough assessments with it."

- M4H

 

[FluxCap]

Probably best to lock or remove this thread now, sorry to say.