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Doom 3 Expansion does not run on Server 2003

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volrath

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I am running Windows XP Pro x64 edition which is basically Server 2003. Doom 3 installed with no problems, but the Doom 3 expansion complains that I do not have 2000 or XP. WTF? What can I do?
 
Originally posted by: Megatomic
WinXP x64 is just as much intended for gaming as it's 32 bit counterpart is.
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My bad - I read too fast - was thinking you said you were trying to game on server 2k3
 
where did you get this idea that xp x64 is basically server 2003?
server 2003 has no support for 64bit cpu's, theres a whole seperate 64 bit server os just like xp...
and actually if you read microsoft's website x64 is NOT intended for gaming...it is made for workstations that are used for complex business and modeling software...

all you could do is stop running a beta OS and go back to regular XP and only run x64 when u are going to actually use its programming model for 64 bit applications...
 
Games are going to remain 32 bit forever? Doubt it. Why were Server 2k3 SP1 and XP x64 released on the same day? Because they are the same OS, and SP1 just added some 64 bit support or features or something. That's what I read. XP Pro x64 has everything that XP Pro has, except it adds 64 bit support. Everything 32 bit runs fine, including Doom 3. Just, the expansion won't install. I wonder if any other games won't install... I will try.
 
This OS is not beta. It was released to manufacturing on the 28th. I am a programmer and I have enjoyed programming in 64 bit, thank you.
 
Originally posted by: Drakkon
where did you get this idea that xp x64 is basically server 2003?
server 2003 has no support for 64bit cpu's, theres a whole seperate 64 bit server os just like xp...
and actually if you read microsoft's website x64 is NOT intended for gaming...it is made for workstations that are used for complex business and modeling software...

all you could do is stop running a beta OS and go back to regular XP and only run x64 when u are going to actually use its programming model for 64 bit applications...
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You sound kind of ignorant after reading this. Windows XP 64bit was built from Windows Server 2003 codebase not the Windows XP codebase, I believe microsoft made the decision as the Server codebase is in general more stable. so microsoft's code paths are as follows


windows 2000 - windows xp - windows 2003 - windows xp 64bit/windows server 64bit

Second, the doom games never would install on windows xp 64bit, head over to www.planetamd64.com and you should be able to find the needed info to show what's needed to run it.

Lastly, I've been running windows xp 64bit, as my main os, with no "normal" windows install since the original beta's come out, and it's more stable then my XP32 installs ever were. ( and I use it for gaming, photoshop, a couple of FTP servers, 3ds max work, and general everday stuff)
 
my bad...i always try and think everyone here operates "legally" 😛

I dont doubt things will run, I just highly don't know how different the two underlying code structures for each are. If theres proof somewhere i'd love to read about it. As for games remaining 32 bit forever, i think they will for a long time, until we switch entirely over to a 64 bit processor model, cause the only thing holding back the games is the bus speed of graphics cards and network speeds, 64 bits memory addressing ability from as far as i can tell isn't going to offer much to games. I dunno what you may have programmed in 64 bit, but all I've noticed is an increased capability to run mathematical models for hair and weather simulations, something of whcih games dont really rely upon and wouldn't be worth programming in i dont think. Who knows, if they can make a game 64bit more power to em, but i doubt they will do so as long as 32 bit holds a majority of the market.

I dunno where you read that SP1 and x64 were linked in any way other than their release date, but everything i get from microsoft (newslettrs and what not) has suggested they were seperate. There release date is in common though because March 28 has been a release to manf day for a number of microsofts apps due to their quarterly model. For example, Server 2003 was first released to manf on March 28th 2003.

Just my 2 cents...or more of a prove me wrong i guess 😀


and to respond to last poster...no where in my post did i say x64 wasn't based off servers modeling, all i ever said was that there were seperate editions and that support wasn't there. Even you admit in your next paragraph it takes an extra step at times to get games to run, which is what i was trying to get at...
 
I just highly doubt it is built off the same server code cause there are two entirely different versions of server as well.
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Not at all. The only differences are bundled software and self-imposed limits put on by MS to make you buy the other versions. Like 2003 Web can't join a domain and you need Advanced Server to use more than 4 CPUs, there's no technical reason for the limitations other than the way MS compiled and packaged the software.
 
THe only reason it takes an extra step is that id games or their publisher (whoever did it... I dunno) put a certain point in the MSI file that is called an OS check and it looks for windows xp or 2000, and only installs on that. I teven works on windows 98 after killing that os check in the file with MaSaI editor.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
I just highly doubt it is built off the same server code cause there are two entirely different versions of server as well.
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Not at all. The only differences are bundled software and self-imposed limits put on by MS to make you buy the other versions. Like 2003 Web can't join a domain and you need Advanced Server to use more than 4 CPUs, there's no technical reason for the limitations other than the way MS compiled and packaged the software.
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yeah that was a bad sentance on my part...when i reread what i posted i had to edit that out 😀
 
Originally posted by: crazySOB297
THe only reason it takes an extra step is that id games or their publisher (whoever did it... I dunno) put a certain point in the MSI file that is called an OS check and it looks for windows xp or 2000, and only installs on that. I teven works on windows 98 after killing that os check in the file with MaSaI editor.
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Hmm... I will have to try this editor.
 
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