Don't you think it's pretty ****** of doctors to do this...?

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imported_goku

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A guy gets his arm/hand badly mangled but it's still there, he is transported to the hospital and when he arrives, they begin to treat him. While they're treating him one of the doctors exclaim, 'we're going to have to amputate it' and then a cry from the background says 'BUT HES (Left or right) handed!!!!! And the doctor replies, 'oh, alright, we'll try to save it'.. :roll: I think thats just ****** up. That person being left or right handed shouldn't make the difference between amputation and having a functioning/partially functioning hand..


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Mark R

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It depends. That said, the above example is rather contrived, and is unlikely to have happened as stated.

Amputation is quite a safe procedure. Trying to repair a seriously injured limb has a lot of problems - infection, bleeding, retained debris, etc. All of these can cause serious problems (including death) following attempted reconstruction surgery. The outcome from this type of surgery is also rarely good, so the risks of prolonged, complex, likely repeated surgery/anesthesia have to be weighed against the benefits of a partially functioning hand.

In the case of the non-dominant hand, the potential disability is much less than the dominant hand - these are all things that need to be considered when deciding on treatment.
 
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endscape

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When I got shot not one of the doctors said "Meh, lets cut that arm off." "What?" "He's right handed?" "Damn, guess we have to save it." or anything even remotely close to it. And my arm was fscked up.
 
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dethman

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as a physician, i can tell you it's not fvcked up at all. when considering any procedure, we have to examine the risk/benefit ratio. trying to save an obviously mangled extremity carries with it multiple risks including prolonged healing, bleeding, infection, sepsis, multiple surgeries, or significant financial burden to the patient. the probability of saving it of course depends on the severity of injury. those are the risks.

the BENEFIT can depend on which hand is injured. if it's the dominant hand, certainly more effort will be put into saving it, and more risk will be taken, even if the possibility of saving a limb is only 1-5% because loss of a dominant hand results in major morbidity for a patient and prolonged recovery and recuperation. a physician can certainly deem that the benefit of saving a dominant hand may outweigh the risk. but the risk of saving a nondominant hand may not outweigh the risk.

amputation is a much safer procedure, but not to be taken lightly, and rest assured that we (at least the majority of physicians) do not take the procedure as routine and certainly put as much effort into saving a limb as possible.


but if i recall, you were the same idiot who posted about the $300 purse vs video card so i assume you will not read this post at all anyway and resume your regular inane banter about the merits of physicians.
 
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dethman and Mark R pretty much summed it up. Saving a mangled limb vs. amputating it causes increased risks. Dethman further improved the quality of the thread with the piece that bonkers quoted.
 
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imported_goku

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Originally posted by: dethman
as a physician, i can tell you it's not fvcked up at all. when considering any procedure, we have to examine the risk/benefit ratio. trying to save an obviously mangled extremity carries with it multiple risks including prolonged healing, bleeding, infection, sepsis, multiple surgeries, or significant financial burden to the patient. the probability of saving it of course depends on the severity of injury. those are the risks.

the BENEFIT can depend on which hand is injured. if it's the dominant hand, certainly more effort will be put into saving it, and more risk will be taken, even if the possibility of saving a limb is only 1-5% because loss of a dominant hand results in major morbidity for a patient and prolonged recovery and recuperation. a physician can certainly deem that the benefit of saving a dominant hand may outweigh the risk. but the risk of saving a nondominant hand may not outweigh the risk.

amputation is a much safer procedure, but not to be taken lightly, and rest assured that we (at least the majority of physicians) do not take the procedure as routine and certainly put as much effort into saving a limb as possible.


but if i recall, you were the same idiot who posted about the $300 purse vs video card so i assume you will not read this post at all anyway and resume your regular inane banter about the merits of physicians.
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go ahead and tell me how this is remotely similar?

 
mrSHEiK124

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: dethman
as a physician, i can tell you it's not fvcked up at all. when considering any procedure, we have to examine the risk/benefit ratio. trying to save an obviously mangled extremity carries with it multiple risks including prolonged healing, bleeding, infection, sepsis, multiple surgeries, or significant financial burden to the patient. the probability of saving it of course depends on the severity of injury. those are the risks.

the BENEFIT can depend on which hand is injured. if it's the dominant hand, certainly more effort will be put into saving it, and more risk will be taken, even if the possibility of saving a limb is only 1-5% because loss of a dominant hand results in major morbidity for a patient and prolonged recovery and recuperation. a physician can certainly deem that the benefit of saving a dominant hand may outweigh the risk. but the risk of saving a nondominant hand may not outweigh the risk.

amputation is a much safer procedure, but not to be taken lightly, and rest assured that we (at least the majority of physicians) do not take the procedure as routine and certainly put as much effort into saving a limb as possible.


but if i recall, you were the same idiot who posted about the $300 purse vs video card so i assume you will not read this post at all anyway and resume your regular inane banter about the merits of physicians.
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go ahead and tell me how this is remotely similar?
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Let us see; both are completely idiotic threads with no factual basis, two threads amongst the thousands of pointless threads you've churned out? Yeah, that's about it.
 
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Pastore

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Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: dethman
as a physician, i can tell you it's not fvcked up at all. when considering any procedure, we have to examine the risk/benefit ratio. trying to save an obviously mangled extremity carries with it multiple risks including prolonged healing, bleeding, infection, sepsis, multiple surgeries, or significant financial burden to the patient. the probability of saving it of course depends on the severity of injury. those are the risks.

the BENEFIT can depend on which hand is injured. if it's the dominant hand, certainly more effort will be put into saving it, and more risk will be taken, even if the possibility of saving a limb is only 1-5% because loss of a dominant hand results in major morbidity for a patient and prolonged recovery and recuperation. a physician can certainly deem that the benefit of saving a dominant hand may outweigh the risk. but the risk of saving a nondominant hand may not outweigh the risk.

amputation is a much safer procedure, but not to be taken lightly, and rest assured that we (at least the majority of physicians) do not take the procedure as routine and certainly put as much effort into saving a limb as possible.


but if i recall, you were the same idiot who posted about the $300 purse vs video card so i assume you will not read this post at all anyway and resume your regular inane banter about the merits of physicians.
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go ahead and tell me how this is remotely similar?
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It's not similar at all, it's pointing out that you are an idiot.
 
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BillyBatson

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
In general, yes, that is jacked up. In reality though, there may be other factors.
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not really, what factors? it was prob his left hand so the doc is all ok let's remove it. finds out he is left handed and all of a sudden it is more important so he is willing to try and save it. he should be tryign to save it no matter what!!!!!!! even if it is just a pinkie! and it goes badly and has no other options THEN he can remove it. clearly him changing his mind meant it was possible or that he could at least try which is what he should have done in the first place.

what if next time he is dying and he is all "he won't make it" and then someone yells "he is the father of 3 kids!!!" and he goes "oh ok then we will try our best to save him" wtf
 
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imported_goku

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Originally posted by: Pastore
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: dethman
as a physician, i can tell you it's not fvcked up at all. when considering any procedure, we have to examine the risk/benefit ratio. trying to save an obviously mangled extremity carries with it multiple risks including prolonged healing, bleeding, infection, sepsis, multiple surgeries, or significant financial burden to the patient. the probability of saving it of course depends on the severity of injury. those are the risks.

the BENEFIT can depend on which hand is injured. if it's the dominant hand, certainly more effort will be put into saving it, and more risk will be taken, even if the possibility of saving a limb is only 1-5% because loss of a dominant hand results in major morbidity for a patient and prolonged recovery and recuperation. a physician can certainly deem that the benefit of saving a dominant hand may outweigh the risk. but the risk of saving a nondominant hand may not outweigh the risk.

amputation is a much safer procedure, but not to be taken lightly, and rest assured that we (at least the majority of physicians) do not take the procedure as routine and certainly put as much effort into saving a limb as possible.


but if i recall, you were the same idiot who posted about the $300 purse vs video card so i assume you will not read this post at all anyway and resume your regular inane banter about the merits of physicians.
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go ahead and tell me how this is remotely similar?
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It's not similar at all, it's pointing out that ATOT is filled with douchebags such as myself.
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Ok....
 
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