Dont speed people

thescreensavers

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Before

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After
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Now the before pictures are rumored to be the same car, the original owner of the car sold is back in 08 not crashed, then the the buyer tried to resell on ebay, and sometime in between the ebay listing and now they have crashed the car, the "after" car has many similarities to the before car

Mods The before car has.

APS Extreme Twin Turbo System - twin GT30s, 3.5" downpipes, twin fuel pumps with return line, upgraded fuel rails and SS lines, etc.
Carbonetics Triple Disc Carbon Clutch - 1350kg pressure plate
APS 3" full dual exhaust
Koyo Slim Radiator
ARP main studs
All new Nissan bearings
.020" overbore
Arias Extreme Duty 9.0:1 pistons
Pauter Billet Forged Rods with ARP rod bolts
ARP L19 head studs
JWT S7 Cams
JWT springs and shims
HKS metal headgasket
HKS FCON VPro engine management
HKS IAT sensors
HKS knock amp with wideband readout
HKS EVC boost controller
HKS DLI II ignition
Defi boost, coolant temp and oil pressure gauges
SP meth injection kit
Espelir 350Z rate springs
SPC fully adjustable control arms
Wilwood 6 piston front/4 piston rear full brake upgrade
Stillen front bumper
Volk GT-S wheels with gloss black centers (19")
Toyo T1-R tires


So yea dont speed :eek:
 

helpme

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How about:

"Don't exceed your limits as a driver, or the limits of the car"

If you have no idea where either limit is, or on a public street, slow the hell down!
 

Baked

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Are you suggesting people should all drive golf carts with 5 MPH speed limit?
 

Arkaign

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Wonder if the driver and / or passengers survived that. Looks like a serious rollover + massive stopping impact.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
What evidence do you have that speed is the cause of this accident?

Heh, it was either speeding or perhaps the car was hit by an 18-wheeler and thrown down a cliff. That's some pretty gnarly damage. Compare to the crash test offset footage of the car hitting a concrete barrier at 35mph : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pHP0xFKxtc
 

JulesMaximus

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I speed all the time. 80mph in a 65 zone is typical on the freeways here. If you're not speeding here you're a liability.
 

RGUN

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What the hell, clearly a car like that was designed to move quickly, and presumably the owner has put some serious money into it (I know those GT30 turbos are 1500 each + atleast that much again in downpipes and EWG's, and those would be the cheap parts of that build. Considering the state of modification, the owner is an enthusiast that may or may not race the car. So without any knowledge of the situation leading to that, why would you venture that it was a speeding incident? It may very well be a racing incident on a track. This is just as bad as in Toronto where every single car that crashes at 20 over they post up street racing everywhere and show pictures from fatal street racing accidents.
 

LTC8K6

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Well, who is going to do all that to the car and then not go fast in it?
 

nerp

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Ha ha. Another dumbass thinking he is a kickass driver but manages to crash his riced up acura. Another one bites the dust.
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: nerp
Ha ha. Another dumbass thinking he is a kickass driver but manages to crash his riced up acura. Another one bites the dust.

FAIL! the 2nd pic clearly shows the front of the car, including the manufacturer's logo. Did you miss that somehow, or can you not tell the difference between Acura and Infiniti logo?
Also, show me whats so rice about that car? The only exterior mods I see is a drop and some aftermarket wheels. No crazy stickers, no giant wing, no neon under glow lighting...

and going by the mod list on that car, it's safe to say that the "riced up acura," as you called it, is faster than most other cars on the road.
 

RGUN

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Well, who is going to do all that to the car and then not go fast in it?

My car has 600+hp right now and will have more than that in the coming monthes. It is mainly a street car, and started life just under 300hp. I have never gone faster than 20km/h or so over the limit. I think one time I hit 140km/hr for a split second on an on ramp. I get passed by minivans and beat up SUVs. I built my car to be fast at the race track, why would I risk anything on the street.

I think you'll find most people who build to that level do so in order to compete with it. Once you run it on the track there really isnt a point on the street, so the above statement is invalid and you should reconsider. People who drive riced out cars that they spend all their money making look and sound fast, those are the ones that run around the street trying to prove how fast they are (when all they are really doing is proving that they are the dumbest - driving several times the posted limit and endangering people). People with cars that are actually fast are in my opinion less likely to enter into a contest of speed on the street. It's just not worth it. Besides, with twin GT30's I wager that car was capable of putting 800hp out on race fuel, probably 650-700 on pump. GT30's are known for quick spooling, so just a touch of the throttle would have it well up over the speed limit.
 

RGUN

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Originally posted by: nerp
Ha ha. Another dumbass thinking he is a kickass driver but manages to crash his riced up acura. Another one bites the dust.

You drive an american V8 I presume? The only thing rice in that car is when the owner picked up some chinese take out.
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Kadarin
What evidence do you have that speed is the cause of this accident?

Heh, it was either speeding or perhaps the car was hit by an 18-wheeler and thrown down a cliff. That's some pretty gnarly damage. Compare to the crash test offset footage of the car hitting a concrete barrier at 35mph : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pHP0xFKxtc

So, that damage couldn't be caused by driving 75 mph (legal in several states) or 80 mph (legal on certain roads in Utah and Texas)?

Also, I would replace speeding with driving at extreme speeds (or something like that). Driving 40 mph in a 20-mph zone is most definitely speeding, but very unlikely the speed at which that car was traveling during its crash.

I agree with helpme's statement: "Don't exceed your limits as a driver, or the limits of the car."
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Kadarin
What evidence do you have that speed is the cause of this accident?

Heh, it was either speeding or perhaps the car was hit by an 18-wheeler and thrown down a cliff. That's some pretty gnarly damage. Compare to the crash test offset footage of the car hitting a concrete barrier at 35mph : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pHP0xFKxtc

So, that damage couldn't be caused by driving 75 mph (legal in several states) or 80 mph (legal on certain roads in Utah and Texas)?

Also, I would replace speeding with driving at extreme speeds (or something like that). Driving 40 mph in a 20-mph zone is most definitely speeding, but very unlikely the speed at which that car was traveling during its crash.

I agree with helpme's statement: "Don't exceed your limits as a driver, or the limits of the car."

It's certainly possible, but I wouldn't think it very likely. At legal speeds on highways in TX, a competent driver shouldn't be losing control, hitting a concrete embankment, and rolling down a hill. The damage to that G35 is absolutely catastrophic, to the point that the occupants may well be dead. It's also possible that another driver caused the accident.

However, looking at the details, and using common sense, it's a reasonable probability that speed + driver error caused this accident. You have a car that is beginning to attract more of the street racer crowd, riced to the gills with aftermarket go-fast goodies, that was probably pushing at LEAST 400whp. I've seen a lot of 100+mph wrecks, and this looks pretty much typical for that kind of mistake.

The bolded quote you reposted is indeed true, and while certainly not conclusively proven without some additional details, this looks like a case where this driver probably exceeded his limits and ended up hurt really bad, or killed. Hopefully not, and hopefully he didn't hurt anyone else.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Kadarin
What evidence do you have that speed is the cause of this accident?

Heh, it was either speeding or perhaps the car was hit by an 18-wheeler and thrown down a cliff. That's some pretty gnarly damage. Compare to the crash test offset footage of the car hitting a concrete barrier at 35mph : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pHP0xFKxtc

So, that damage couldn't be caused by driving 75 mph (legal in several states) or 80 mph (legal on certain roads in Utah and Texas)?

Also, I would replace speeding with driving at extreme speeds (or something like that). Driving 40 mph in a 20-mph zone is most definitely speeding, but very unlikely the speed at which that car was traveling during its crash.

I agree with helpme's statement: "Don't exceed your limits as a driver, or the limits of the car."

Speeding, even at 200mph if your car can manage it, is NEVER the cause of an accident. It will be a contributing factor to the severity of the wreck, though. The cause will be something like mechanical failure (tire blows out), driver error (misjudged the vector of a nearby car), or some other factor (another driver making an error, driver hitting railing or going off a cliff, etc).

If I drive 150mph in my car, it won't automatically end up looking like the one in the OP. If, however, I *hit something* while going that fast, then it will almost certainly end up that way.
 

helpme

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Kadarin
What evidence do you have that speed is the cause of this accident?

Heh, it was either speeding or perhaps the car was hit by an 18-wheeler and thrown down a cliff. That's some pretty gnarly damage. Compare to the crash test offset footage of the car hitting a concrete barrier at 35mph : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pHP0xFKxtc

So, that damage couldn't be caused by driving 75 mph (legal in several states) or 80 mph (legal on certain roads in Utah and Texas)?

Also, I would replace speeding with driving at extreme speeds (or something like that). Driving 40 mph in a 20-mph zone is most definitely speeding, but very unlikely the speed at which that car was traveling during its crash.

I agree with helpme's statement: "Don't exceed your limits as a driver, or the limits of the car."

It's certainly possible, but I wouldn't think it very likely. At legal speeds on highways in TX, a competent driver shouldn't be losing control, hitting a concrete embankment, and rolling down a hill. The damage to that G35 is absolutely catastrophic, to the point that the occupants may well be dead. It's also possible that another driver caused the accident.

However, looking at the details, and using common sense, it's a reasonable probability that speed + driver error caused this accident. You have a car that is beginning to attract more of the street racer crowd, riced to the gills with aftermarket go-fast goodies, that was probably pushing at LEAST 400whp. I've seen a lot of 100+mph wrecks, and this looks pretty much typical for that kind of mistake.

The bolded quote you reposted is indeed true, and while certainly not conclusively proven without some additional details, this looks like a case where this driver probably exceeded his limits and ended up hurt really bad, or killed. Hopefully not, and hopefully he didn't hurt anyone else.

The other important part of my comment was:

"If you have no idea where either limit is, or on a public street, slow the hell down!"

Most people don't know where their limit is, or the limit of the car is... However, I'd hope this usually leads them to running into a tree, barrier or going off a cliff, harming only themselfs (hopefully no passengers!).

I don't have any sympathy for those who wreck their car on the street by driving at unsafe speeds for public roads and/or being over their heads.

Even if you are in control, the granny that you're coming up on is about to shit her pants when she realizes you're going 80 mph faster than her :D She won't know how to react, and may do something unpredictiable that could cause you to run into her, crash while trying to avoid her or even cause her to crash. Even if you feel that you are in control, public roads are not like the ribbon smooth asphault of a race track... which can lead to problems.

That's why we have drag strips, race tracks and autocross.

If you're going to spend all that money modding your car, I can understand if you want to fool around a bit on the street, that's ok, just keep it in check (and not on busy freeways or streets!). But if you want to go balls out and see what it can do at 100%, take it to the track.

Of course, we still don't know if this guy got hit by another driver who ran a red light, crashed into a train while trying to avoid a small child, or his can of NOS ENERGY DRINK that rolled under his brake pedal ;) :D
 

LTC8K6

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My car has 600+hp right now and will have more than that in the coming monthes. It is mainly a street car, and started life just under 300hp. I have never gone faster than 20km/h or so over the limit. I think one time I hit 140km/hr for a split second on an on ramp. I get passed by minivans and beat up SUVs. I built my car to be fast at the race track, why would I risk anything on the street.

Yes, but you built it to go fast in it.

We don't know where the car in the OP was wrecked do we? May well have been on a track.