Dont pass judgement on bulldozer yet...

[ocre]

its not intel fanboys, its really true BD uses a lot more power for the performance. If you CF at those high resolutions, your BD will also bottleneck your multi card setup.

who are you calling fanboys......

The 2500k is cheaper, the whole platform is cheaper. Your focus on gaming is baffling me cause If you buy BD you will pay more and sacrifice performance. In multi GPU setups the sacrifices get worse and worse!

So you will pay more and sacrifice performance just to support AMD?

 

[hasu]

The people who are defending Bulldozer now are probably the same people who bashed Prescott back in the days, assuming they were around back then. It's funny because Bulldozer and Prescott share alot of traits, like massive power consumption/heat and decent performance in encoding/rendering type apps while sucking in games, compared with their competition.

Good point. You should search for other posts of these pro-intel and pro-amd members. You may not like the results though.

(Tip: It is easy to search: click on the user-name on the left side of the message to see the menu).

 

[dbigers]

Why does the truth have to hurt so much? If people would just leave emotions out of their buying decisions, they would be better off. That way when a product comes out and it doesn't perform as they thought it would, no big deal, just buy something else.

I truly don't understand the rationale behind buying a brand new motherboard for a product months before it is released either. (Intel or AMD) Doing that creates even more pressure and emotion for yourself because now you have more to lose if the product doesn't perform.

Anyway, inability to use rational thinking seems to be a recurring them for fanboys. Make performance and value your priority instead of brand name. Things are a lot easier that way.

 

[TuxDave]

Bye now i'll play some BFBC2 and kill some intel fanboys/ amd haters.

lol, someone's really bitter.

 

[aigomorla]

Bye now i'll play some BFBC2 and kill some intel fanboys/ amd haters.

uhhhh i haz better pc then u? D:
it takes me less then .000001 second in the paste command to paste:
allyourbasesbelongtous...

wait.. i got the wrong game...

iono how else to comment to this...

Too late dude. The Intelites have been dancing on AMD's grave for months now. Classy bunch, they....

Thats cuz AMD kept doing this to us:

so yeah, of course people are going to be like this after we saw results which could not get invalidated.

 

[qliveur]

lol, someone's really bitter.

I think that "butthurt" would be more appropriate in this case.

 

[Hypertag]

I refuse to pat AMD on the back for lying to me.

If that makes me an "Intel fanboy", so be it.

You are also an Intel shrill and puppet. Also, you are likely an Intel employee since Intel must be paying people to baselessly smear bulldozer.


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Doh, my bad, failure at sarcasm detection on my part. mea culpa

Idontcare
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[DaveSimmons]

You are also an Intel shrill and puppet. Also, you are likely an Intel employee since Intel must be paying people to baselessly smear bulldozer.

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The Iraqi information minister says:

"Bulldozer power consumption is a good thing, it will keep your house warm all winter long!"

 

[Maximilian]

You are also an Intel shrill and puppet. Also, you are likely an Intel employee since Intel must be paying people to baselessly smear bulldozer.

Did you read the reviews lol...

 

[Idontcare]

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The Iraqi information minister says:

"Bulldozer power consumption is a good thing, it will keep your house warm all winter long!"

Did you read the reviews lol...

It's sarcasm guys.

 

[Hypertag]

Someone defended bulldozer with the line that he isn't an "intel shrill, puppet, employee, or investor". Since this line is just so rediclous, I have used it to try to lampoon bulldozer defenders.

 

[3DVagabond]

Funny people think Intel has shills posting about Bulldozer. If I ran Intel I'd give everyone in the desktop division the rest of the year off. Tell them to get some rest and enjoy the holidays. I'd be afraid that they'd come out with something that would put AMD out of business. They may have to raise prices so AMD can stay competitive at least on perf/$.

 

[dac7nco]

If I ran Intel I'd give everyone in the desktop division the rest of the year off. Tell them to get some rest and enjoy the holidays.

Seriously. Right now there are probably Intel engineers who are embarrassed for AMD. As recently as a week ago I was considering Bulldozer for cheap compute nodes, but hell no, not anymore. My days of giving AMD any consideration whatsoever on the desktop are over. A 32nm highly clocked, improved Thuban is something I would have paid for. An 8-core FM1 system I would've paid for, but cheap 1155 Xeons will do just fine.

Daimon

 

[AnandThenMan]

I refuse to pat AMD on the back for lying to me.

If that makes me an "Intel fanboy", so be it.

Intel is your bestest buddy.

 

[RobertR1]

Those 2600K power numbers look like BS to me.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2195927

Going from 5GHz to 5.2GHz is not going to increase the CPU power consumption by another 400W. It's just not. Something is borked with the tweaktown results, especially when you consider they aren't even loading it with IBT, that's just 3Dmark11 there.

We also don't know the volts used to achieve 5.2 on the 2600k. I'm sure you can overvolt like crazy, disable all power saving and make it have a high power draw on a test. A 5.2 OC on a 2600k isn't exactly normal or likely even a good idea for 24/7 running on air.

 

[Rifter]

I refuse to pat AMD on the back for lying to me.

If that makes me an "Intel fanboy", so be it.

100% this

BD will work on AM3 mobos, Lie # 1
IPC will be higher, Lie # 2
Was supposed to be out in H1 2011, Lie # 3

You really cant expect people to keep liking AMD as a company when the pull crap like this. Intel might not be the best as far as upgrade path and having to buy new hardware but they dont lie to there end users all the time just to try and boost sales, because they know they have a huge flop.

 

[mikeymikec]

OP wrote:

These tests are done from a controlled environment. Multitasking seems like it may be this processors strength, so real world use may close the gap a bit.

Let's imagine for a moment that Bulldozer had whupped Sandy Bridge's butt. I wonder if this guy would currently be "cautiously optimistic" because "real world use may close the gap a bit"?

PS - I really couldn't care less which company outperforms the other, I try to get the best value for money at a given time, taking noise/power usage/chipset maturity into account as well.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Well, there's always the 960T. From the few people here on AT/H, it seems to have potential (~4+GHz, unlocks to hex core). Really not bad for $125 when coupled with a cheap mobo.

 

[eternalone]

You are also an Intel shrill and puppet. Also, you are likely an Intel employee since Intel must be paying people to baselessly smear bulldozer.


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Doh, my bad, failure at sarcasm detection on my part. mea culpa

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[grkM3]

Bah, i'm done talking to Intel fan boys, sure lets hope intel takes amd out of the x86 market and you can laugh all day long and we all can buy overpriced cpus.

I try to defend BD says its not SO BAD like people say it is, because it really isn't, people read 1 review and take it for granted, i've seen about a dozen review and they all are a little bit different, SB wins in FP calculations but BD win integer.

I game at 3240x1920 and at that res SB or BD will perform just a like.

Bye now i'll play some BFBC2 and kill some intel fanboys/ amd haters.

How can you call people fanboys when its the truth.

You have 2 of the most important people at AMD fired and you somehow still try to defend a poor cpu with every last little bit you have to justify your true colors.

you came here and signed up just to tell us that one site got better resluts etc.Did you ever think that maybe they used tighter timings and faster ram,shut off a few cores,or just faked the results to get hits on there site?

do you honestly think AMD would send out a cpu and board that is not showing there cpu working 100% to show the world what it can do?

on to windows 8,maybe just maybe the gains BD got are gains in windows os from being more optimised in general.Did you ever think for a min that hey maybe a 2600k will get more gains once an os is optimised for 8 threads?

next up power draw,you use a test where they have 3 gpu and load up a gaming benchmark.ya guess what those GPUS are going to draw close numbers,next time find a review that is loading just the cpus and see how they do against each other.Try to clock them the same also.5.2ghz is 1.5 voltage range on the 2600k and is not a fair bench.when at the speeds that the bd ran you could lower the voltage to 1.35-1.4

last but not least,you have a chip with 1.1 billion more transistors,4 more cores and no on die gpu running hotter and performing less than a 2600k with half the cores and also consuming less power along with its gpu thats built in.Why would you NOT buy a 2600k?

Its simply better in everything other than price and running winzip

 

[paperfist]

The people who are defending Bulldozer now are probably the same people who bashed Prescott back in the days, assuming they were around back then. It's funny because Bulldozer and Prescott share alot of traits, like massive power consumption/heat and decent performance in encoding/rendering type apps while sucking in games, compared with their competition.

Prescott had 8 cores?

 

[Genx87]

From IDC's post in the other thread it looks like the OP is at stage 3. Maybe when windows 7 is optimized, maybe its a firmware/driver problem yada yada yada.

Dont worry OP, remember the 2500k is still a great CPU, that thought will help you through stage 4

Haha that is brilliant. I moved onto stage 5 when Intel released Core 2 Duo and AMD hyped up and flopped with Phenom I. Life has been so nice ever since running faster Intel based machines

 

[aigomorla]

Prescott had 8 cores?

it was over 9000 and not made in sparta, thats why it failed.

 

[Ferzerp]

Hey guys, I just wanted to check in and find out if it's ok to judge it yet.

Maybe next week?

It is a mystery! :shrug:

 

[john3850]

The only thing the FX-8150 seems good for is benching with (LN2) @7500+ which is not bad