Dont Look at Me

piasabird

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...urger-king-20120407,0,5078485.story?track=rss

A couple Female Patrons say dont look at me at a fast food restraunt in Chicago, go outside and come back with over 20 people and then almost stomp them to death! Cops can not find anyone or arrest anyone. Even when the patrons relatives witness the incident and immediately call 911, the Police are totally useless.

I think it is time for tougher more stingent enforcement of laws in all cases of violent crime. We need some good ole hanging judges. We should also require more cameras in restraunts if crimes take place there.

When judges go easy on people for lesser crimes the criminals just get involved in worse more violent crime. I say hang them High! We need swift capital punishment and more cameras in large cities. We also need Labor Camps for hardened criminals. Make them work in mines till they die or something. What do you think happens to criminals in North Korea or China?
 
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Lemon law

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As the link states, the perps came in later, beat the two women, and than ran away before the cops came, and now the Piasabird solution is to severely punish someone anyone regardless if they were involved or not.
 

Moonbeam

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I think it would be much better to have thought police and embedded computers that can sense when you're angry and administer a sedative before we pick you up and bag you for extermination. But I guess we should enjoy our crime wave while we can. In the near future our two angry posts would leave us about five seconds and poof.
 

Moonbeam

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As the link states, the perps came in later, beat the two women, and than ran away before the cops came, and now the Piasabird solution is to severely punish someone anyone regardless if they were involved or not.

Seems like a good idea to me. Didn't the Germans maintain alles in ordnung by killing 50 if one misbehaved? It's not right that ordinary folk live in fear of crime and boogie men. Only an enormous fear can contain the madness of lesser fear. And think of the economic benefits. When everybody is terrified to the max we can do away with sewers because folk will have all been scared shitless.
 

Sunburn74

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There are always going to be crazy crimes. The better question to ask is: what are the incentives the police have to actually intervene in crime? If you really took the time to look at the situation, you'd be surprised by how little they actually have to gain by responding to a call... I read in a book someplace (i can name the book later), a cop in chicago is 3x more likely to receive a free handjob and other sexual acts from a prostitute whilst on service than to arrest a prostitute whilst on service.
 
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Just start INSTANTLY executing any person guilty of 3 or more felonies. In about 10 years we'll have the majority of repeat offenders dead and crime will plummet to unheard of lows. Another 20 years to wipe out the children of those people who were raised to embrace the lifestyle, and we'll finally have it almost licked.
 

Rainsford

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Just start INSTANTLY executing any person guilty of 3 or more felonies. In about 10 years we'll have the majority of repeat offenders dead and crime will plummet to unheard of lows. Another 20 years to wipe out the children of those people who were raised to embrace the lifestyle, and we'll finally have it almost licked.

Other than the constitutional issues that raises (not to mention the moral ones), that plan only works if crime is entirely due to a small set of factors.

Not all criminals had criminals for parents. Some people break the law due to societal or economic circumstance, or because they were raised by crappy parents, or because they're exposed to a peer group that doesn't place a high value on following the law, or for any number of reasons.

Your plan seems based on the idea that there is a static criminal group in society, and that if we can get rid of them we won't have any more crime. I'm not sure it works quite like that.
 

homercles337

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Just start INSTANTLY executing any person guilty of 3 or more felonies. In about 10 years we'll have the majority of repeat offenders dead and crime will plummet to unheard of lows. Another 20 years to wipe out the children of those people who were raised to embrace the lifestyle, and we'll finally have it almost licked.

It sounds like you think we have a flawless judicial system. Maybe if you were wrongly convicted of a crime you would change your tune.
 

cubby1223

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We need billions of cameras and cameras up our asses so we can get mug shots.

I always suspected your head was up your ass. Thanks for the confirmation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/01/chicago-weekend-shootings_n_1394812.html
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/i...t-patricks-day-weekend-chicago-shootings.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/30/national/a165813D88.DTL

Chicago already has a shit-ton of cameras everywhere. Focus resources on different police tactics next. Of course, you are also the one who suggested embedded thought control chips...
 
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Moonbeam

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I always suspected your head was up your ass. Thanks for the confirmation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/01/chicago-weekend-shootings_n_1394812.html
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/i...t-patricks-day-weekend-chicago-shootings.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/30/national/a165813D88.DTL

Chicago already has a shit-ton of cameras everywhere. Focus resources on different police tactics next. Of course, you are also the one who suggested embedded thought control chips...

Yeah, well, lucky you. Your face looks like an anus polyp so you'll escape detection.
 
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Other than the constitutional issues that raises (not to mention the moral ones), that plan only works if crime is entirely due to a small set of factors.

Not all criminals had criminals for parents. Some people break the law due to societal or economic circumstance, or because they were raised by crappy parents, or because they're exposed to a peer group that doesn't place a high value on following the law, or for any number of reasons.

Your plan seems based on the idea that there is a static criminal group in society, and that if we can get rid of them we won't have any more crime. I'm not sure it works quite like that.

60-75% of crime is committed by repeat offenders (depending on which study you look at). Around 60% of all felonies are committed by felons. My plan plays the numbers. Will it end ALL crime? No, of course not. Will it end MOST crime? Absolutely. Also, by removing those particular people from existence we remove their influence and their drain on society as a whole. It frees up money, frees up time, and frees up space for kids to emulate someone else.

Yes, crime is cultural and socio-economic. By all means, establish some good infrastructure and social programs...especially food, shelter, clothing, and medical care (including especially mental health care). I fully support all that. I don't support doing that so people who aren't going to integrate into society no matter what can extort more from decent human beings.

Criminals (of the serious variety, not jaywalkers, prostitutes, and pot smokers) are worthless pieces of shit and should be removed. Period.
 
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It sounds like you think we have a flawless judicial system. Maybe if you were wrongly convicted of a crime you would change your tune.

If I get wrongly convicted of felonies three different times then the entire system is so absolutely broken nothing matters anyway. Most of the breaks in the judicial system are protected in their broken state by lawyers who profit from it. Either bulldoze the system and give the lawyers NO say in the matter, or just accept that this is what we've asked for and anything that comes of it is collateral damage.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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We need billions of cameras and cameras up our asses so we can get mug shots.

What we could do with repeat offenders is implant a small transducer into their skull so they hear a never ending loop of Raffi's "Bananaphone". Crime would plummet.
 

cybrsage

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If either of those two women would have been armed, they would have won the fight.