Don't let your friends buy a prebuilt gaming PC from Wal Mart ...

UsandThem

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ZOMG, this is actually WORSE than I figured it would be when I saw Wally World had gotten more fully into the computer business ...

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3401-walmart-gaming-pc-overpowered-dtw3-not-worth-it-review

Caveat emptor on pre-builts.

It seems like 99% of the time when a PC has the word "gaming" in it, it is not any where near a gaming PC at all. Pre-built PCs like Dell, HP, iBuyPower, etc have their place for people who don't/can't build. But for anyone who wants to be on the cutting edge or play a lot of games, they usually are much better off building their own.

One of the biggest areas PC companies skimp on in their machines are the motherboards, and that is what it seems Walmart's OEM did when building this PC. They usually are really low-end, feature fewer SATA ports, fan headers, and expansion slots. Plus, the BIOS are usually locked down so little to no tweaking is available. Some of their other complaints like the lack of fan filters is extremely common among all pre-built PCs.
 

whm1974

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Caveat emptor on pre-builts.

It seems like 99% of the time when a PC has the word "gaming" in it, it is not any where near a gaming PC at all. Pre-built PCs like Dell, HP, iBuyPower, etc have their place for people who don't/can't build. But for anyone who wants to be on the cutting edge or play a lot of games, they usually are much better off building their own.

One of the biggest areas PC companies skimp on in their machines are the motherboards, and that is what it seems Walmart's OEM did when building this PC. They usually are really low-end, feature fewer SATA ports, fan headers, and expansion slots. The BIOS are usually locked down so tweaking is available as well. Some of their other complaints like the lack of fan filters is extremely common among all PC builders.
Not to mention slower memory and HDDs instead of SSDs. I almost swear I've seen a gaming build this year using a Celeron, 4GB of memory, and a 1030 dGPU in it...:eek:
 

XMan

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Not to mention slower memory and HDDs instead of SSDs. I almost swear I've seen a gaming build this year using a Celeron, 4GB of memory, and a 1030 dGPU in it...:eek:

I still remember trying to "fix" a computer with a "ready for Vista" badge that came with 1GB of RAM.

Customer could not understand why I was recommending they upgrade their brand new PC.
 

whm1974

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I still remember trying to "fix" a computer with a "ready for Vista" badge that came with 1GB of RAM.

Customer could not understand why I was recommending they upgrade their brand new PC.
Did you show him the requirements for Vista? While at that time I had 2 gigs of memory, most people I knew didn't even have 1 gig.
 

XMan

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512MB was minimum, but that was laughable. A lot of OEMs really screwed the pooch back in those days.
 

VirtualLarry

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I read the whole article, and some of it was over-the-top. Claiming that the cooler was insufficient for the i7-8700 CPU, without: 1) load and temp testing, and 2) speculating that the cooler should be overspecified, should the owner be lazy and never dust out the PC for three years. C'mon. Really? That's not a real complaint.

Also, picking on them for hot-gluing the USB3.0 cable? And making the claim that they "just don't" separate in shipping? Ok, Steve, try doing systems integration for years, and then get back to me, You YT star You. It's not like it can't be peeled off, if necessary to do repairs. And I expect that it cuts down on support calls, which is why they do it, otherwise, they wouldn't spend the labor on it.

I remember hot clue and silicone paste (caulk) on IDE cables back in the whitebox days at Computer Fairs. It's not at all unusual for a SI to do that, especially shipping. (I don't, but I don't do pretty-much any volume. Most of my few sales are local.)

Yeah, he had valid complaints, that they "wasted" the mobo's USB3.0 header, to route to a USB-C bracket on the back side. There's a reason that header is called "Front USB 3.0", it's for the front of the case. If they didn't use a case with front USB3.0, well, shame on them.

And of course, the massive screw-up that Walmart sent the down-rev SKU, rather than the full-fat version, yeah, I'd be pissed at that too, Steve.

In closing, I bought an "HP Power Gaming PC" last BF, with an i5-7400, 2x4GB DDR4-2400 RAM, an OEM GTX 1060 3GB, and a 1TB HDD (disconnected before use, and an SSD installed), and honestly, for $500, I couldn't build one at the price, and it was pretty darn good. Pretty much decent reviews from that era.

So, not all Gaming PCs from Walmart are a bad deal. Some, are very good.

I agree, it seemed overpriced, for shipping with an H310 mobo. Although Steve harps on the "Half Bus Speed" thing like it matters somehow. The video card's PCI-E goes straight into the CPU, as does the DRAM. So, you're looking at chipset I/O, like USB3.0 and SATA, potentially bottlenecking slightly. Unless you're trying to use Linux software MDM RAID-5 over four Intel chipset SATA ports, while at the same time, downloading over a gigabit internet connection to an NVMe SSD, while backing up your RAID over multiple USB3.0 ports to external HDDs, AT THE SAME TIME, then I DON'T think it's a (real) problem.

Edit: Of course, mine was an HP, not some generic shlock builder, but still.
 
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