Don Jr. don effed up

JEDIYoda

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As much as I really want to believe that this person is telling the truth, even CNN is skeptical! Even though they had the breaking interview...….
 

cytg111

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It may pan out or it may not pan out ... you guys still dont get the game of incomplete information, its the sum of all the small things plus, you will most certainly not find anything if you dont go looking.
 

TheVrolok

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It may pan out or it may not pan out ... you guys still dont get the game of incomplete information, its the sum of all the small things plus, you will most certainly not find anything if you dont go looking.
Mueller et al certainly went looking, or so we were told.
 

HomerJS

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I watch this interview last night. Pretty compelling but I'm not buying all of it yet. Needs more followup.
 
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TheVrolok

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I thought Mueller specifically did NOT go looking too deep into Trump or his family?
For things outside his purview I do believe that to be the case, however, Jr meeting with a Kremlin agent should certainly fall into "Russian interference in the election."
 

dawp

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For things outside his purview I do believe that to be the case, however, Jr meeting with a Kremlin agent should certainly fall into "Russian interference in the election."
that and I believe they had a duty to investigate anything that turns up in the course of their investigation, no matter what it is.

and telling the investigators 'such and such is off limits' tend to draw attention to what you deem off-limits, not a smart move on their part.
 
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zinfamous

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At this point we could produce a legitimate photo of Trump, bent over and smiling, signing over the "Deed to the USA" to Putin, with Putin's dick up his ass at the same time, dated in 2015-2016, and Moscow Mitch still wouldn't do anything.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Oh shit, THIS proves it!

LOL. Lemmings.

Buy Greenland!

If you bothered to read no one has bought into this and for myself, I'm highly skeptical. It's not like Trumpettes who say that there was no obstruction mentioned in the Mueller Report.
 

UNCjigga

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Didn’t Patrick Byrne just tank Overstock’s stock last week with some rambling “deep state” memo-as-press-release stunt? I think he just resigned as CEO. Can’t say how credible he is now, but he provided at least a few credible details to Mueller’s team that checked out.
 
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Didn’t Patrick Byrne just tank Overstock’s stock last week with some rambling “deep state” memo-as-press-release stunt? I think he just resigned as CEO. Can’t say how credible he is now, but he provided at least a few credible details to Mueller’s team that checked out.

Yes he did. He did seem to play an actual role in this stuff (did actually date the Russian woman, and from what I've gathered informed the FBI of her being a Russian agent, and possibly working with the FBI to get more info on her and the people she was involved with), but he also has a history of pushing conspiracy garbage, so I'm guessing, like is common in conspiracy theory crap, they'll take the thinnest legitimate stuff and then run with it to crazy town and back.
 

UNCjigga

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Just read up on Byrne’s libel suit in Canada that he lost horribly...I’m gonna say Don Jr. meeting with Russian agents in 2015 (beyond just Butina herself) is unknowable at this point, because the source lacks credibility.

Edit: This seems to be a pattern with this Administration...you can imagine how frustrating it was for Mueller and his team to deal with these clowns. Butina’s boyfriends, Papadopalous, Paige, Stone, Credico—can never know if you’re getting the truth from these idiots.
 
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Oh shit, THIS proves it!

LOL. Lemmings.

I'm gonna laugh when you start posting the stuff Byrne has been saying because it actually fits a lot of the crazy bullshit that you've bought into whole hog (deep state, conspiracy against Turmp, bunch of other shit). Hell, I don't doubt you have before (Byrne has posted right wing conspiracy garbage for years).
 
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At this point we could produce a legitimate photo of Trump, bent over and smiling, signing over the "Deed to the USA" to Putin, with Putin's dick up his ass at the same time, dated in 2015-2016, and Moscow Mitch still wouldn't do anything.
You could produce a photo but it would be fake like the rest of the "mountain of evidence".
 
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Just read up on Byrne’s libel suit in Canada that he lost horribly...I’m gonna say Don Jr. meeting with Russian agents in 2015 (beyond just Butina herself) is unknowable at this point, because the source lacks credibility.

Edit: This seems to be a pattern with this Administration...you can imagine how frustrating it was for Mueller and his team to deal with these clowns. Butina’s boyfriends, Papadopalous, Paige, Stone, Credico—can never know if you’re getting the truth from these idiots.

Is Byrne even the one making the case for all that? I was under the impression that its mostly others extrapolating from him revealing how he was an informant for the FBI (and so linking how he connected with all these others), while Byrne is basically going off about some deep state espionage that supposedly happened against both Turmp and Clinton leading up to the 2016 election?

I need to read more on what he's actually been saying. Most of the other seems to be people like that Seth Abrahms guy extrapolating some of the real details (some of which were known before I believe? Like I don't think Byrne's relationship with the Russian woman was news to the people that had been following/investigating this closely). I won't be at all surprised to find pictures of Turmps with the Russian woman at the NRA stuff to be shown basically right after they claim they had never met her and don't know who she even is, wherein they'll go "oh, well we just said hi and posed for a photo", before video of them sitting at the same table and eating shows up, and then it'll just be "oh but we didn't talk about anything really" and it'll keep going from there while conservatives re-enact that Chappelle Show sketch to justify believing its not real.

 
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Mueller only looked at Trump. Everyone else seemed beyond his purview.
You could produce a photo but it would be fake like the rest of the "mountain of evidence".

Brandon, I’m legitimately interested in this question and I’ve yet to hear anyone answer it in a way that reflects good on the President.

The President has said he has been the toughest President on Russia.
Facts are Russia did nothing to hinder his campaign but they did
Target Hillary, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and some others.

Does that sound like something Russia would do if they were afraid of the President?
I’m not talking about collusion, I’m not talking about impeachment. What I am saying is why does the President appear to be the person Russia wanted in office?
 

Thebobo

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As much as I really want to believe that this person is telling the truth, even CNN is skeptical! Even though they had the breaking interview...….

He was on fox blabbering a couple hours earlier saying the same. Not that it matters now. He seems a little insane imo.
 

hal2kilo

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Just read up on Byrne’s libel suit in Canada that he lost horribly...I’m gonna say Don Jr. meeting with Russian agents in 2015 (beyond just Butina herself) is unknowable at this point, because the source lacks credibility.

Edit: This seems to be a pattern with this Administration...you can imagine how frustrating it was for Mueller and his team to deal with these clowns. Butina’s boyfriends, Papadopalous, Paige, Stone, Credico—can never know if you’re getting the truth from these idiots.
It hard to work with a pack of liars.
 

hal2kilo

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Is Byrne even the one making the case for all that? I was under the impression that its mostly others extrapolating from him revealing how he was an informant for the FBI (and so linking how he connected with all these others), while Byrne is basically going off about some deep state espionage that supposedly happened against both Turmp and Clinton leading up to the 2016 election?

I need to read more on what he's actually been saying. Most of the other seems to be people like that Seth Abrahms guy extrapolating some of the real details (some of which were known before I believe? Like I don't think Byrne's relationship with the Russian woman was news to the people that had been following/investigating this closely). I won't be at all surprised to find pictures of Turmps with the Russian woman at the NRA stuff to be shown basically right after they claim they had never met her and don't know who she even is, wherein they'll go "oh, well we just said hi and posed for a photo", before video of them sitting at the same table and eating shows up, and then it'll just be "oh but we didn't talk about anything really" and it'll keep going from there while conservatives re-enact that Chappelle Show sketch to justify believing its not real.

I'm not getting any of this conspiracy BS. It was known that the Russians were trying to interfere with the 2016 elections, should the FBI have just sat on their hands and not do a little snooping on both parties?