Domestic Terrorism . . .

CaptnKirk

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Ashcroft likes to manipulate the information it seems:

1) From the New York Times
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April 2003, John Ashcroft's Justice Department disrupted what appears to have been a horrifying terrorist plot. In the small town of Noonday, Tex., F.B.I. agents discovered a weapons cache containing fully automatic machine guns, remote-controlled explosive devices disguised as briefcases, 60 pipe bombs and a chemical weapon ? a cyanide bomb ? big enough to kill everyone in a 30,000-square-foot building.

Strangely, though, the attorney general didn't call a press conference to announce the discovery of the weapons cache, or the arrest of William Krar, its owner. He didn't even issue a press release. This was, to say the least, out of character. Jose Padilla, the accused "dirty bomber," didn't have any bomb-making material or even a plausible way to acquire such material, yet Mr. Ashcroft put him on front pages around the world. Mr. Krar was caught with an actual chemical bomb, yet Mr. Ashcroft acted as if nothing had happened.

Incidentally, if Mr. Ashcroft's intention was to keep the case low-profile, the media have been highly cooperative. To this day, the Noonday conspiracy has received little national coverage.

At this point, I have the usual problem. Writing about John Ashcroft poses the same difficulties as writing about the Bush administration in general, only more so: the truth about his malfeasance is so extreme that it's hard to avoid sounding shrill.

In this case, it sounds over the top to accuse Mr. Ashcroft of trying to bury news about terrorists who don't fit his preferred story line. Yet it's hard to believe that William Krar wouldn't have become a household name if he had been a Muslim, or even a leftist. Was Mr. Ashcroft, who once gave an interview with Southern Partisan magazine in which he praised "Southern patriots" like Jefferson Davis, reluctant to publicize the case of a terrorist who happened to be a white supremacist?

More important, is Mr. Ashcroft neglecting real threats to the public because of his ideological biases?

Mr. Krar's arrest was the result not of a determined law enforcement effort against domestic terrorists, but of a fluke: when he sent a package containing counterfeit U.N. and Defense Intelligence Agency credentials to an associate in New Jersey, it was delivered to the wrong address. Luckily, the recipient opened the package and contacted the F.B.I. But for that fluke, we might well have found ourselves facing another Oklahoma City-type atrocity.

The discovery of the Texas cyanide bomb should have served as a wake-up call: 9/11 has focused our attention on the threat from Islamic radicals, but murderous right-wing fanatics are still out there. The concerns of the Justice Department, however, appear to lie elsewhere. Two weeks ago a representative of the F.B.I. appealed to an industry group for help in combating what, he told the audience, the F.B.I. regards as the country's leading domestic terrorist threat: ecological and animal rights extremists.

</clip> But there's more if you care to read it.

2) There was a shooting in Fort Worth / Dallas area over the weekend that killed
one Policeman and left another critically injured - the perpetrater died as well.
Inside the van in a WalMart parking lot there was an arsenal of weaponry.
Officials say that it looks like he was going for a big body count event.
Link to incident in Grand Prarie / Houston Chronicle

Little mention of these incidents, as they don't frame Islamic terror as involved.
 

conjur

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I just read that in the NY Times.

Very interesting that the administration would keep quiet on such a big arrest.

Why??
 

CaptnKirk

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I added the link to the Grand Prarie incident from last Friday.
It was from the Houston Newspaper, Fort Worth link still down.
 

arsbanned

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They need a homogenous enemy to keep us occupied. The bust they made is not in keeping with that.
 

CaptnKirk

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Krar's cause ?
'Cause he was a White Supremist.
Survivialist type mentality.
Bring 'em on.
 

CaptnKirk

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Found this from a San Antonio Paper

He appears to be rowing with at least one oar in the sand.
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Krar and Bruey were selling firearms, ammunition and anti-Semitic, anti-black and anti-government books and pamphlets to right-wing extremists. Since their arrest, Krar has pleaded guilty to possession of a chemical weapon, and Bruey has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons.


They visited the rented storage lockers at the same time every day, a quiet middle-aged couple whose lives seemed almost painfully routine. "They were here every morning about 7," said Teresa Staples, owner of Noonday Storage. "We never talked to them very much."

Staples assumed the man and woman worked out of their storage lockers, like several of her other clients, selling used clothing and other miscellaneous items. "What we saw them unloading was swimsuits, clothing, garden tools and things like that," she said.

But William J. Krar and his common-law wife, Judith L. Bruey, had a secret. Behind boxes of hardhats and jockstraps in their lockers, FBI agents on April 10 uncovered an enormous cache of weapons, including the makings of a sodium cyanide bomb capable of killing thousands.

The case serves as a chilling reminder of the threat domestic extremists pose even as the nation lives in heightened fear of foreign terrorists. Though the hunt for Osama bin Laden seemingly defines the FBI, the agency's domestic-terrorism caseload quietly has increased to 10 times what it was just before the Oklahoma City bombing, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

On the FBI's list were Krar and Bruey. Authorities say the two, now lodged in a Tyler detention center as they await sentencing next month, were selling firearms, ammunition and anti-Semitic, anti-black and anti-government books and pamphlets to right-wing extremists. Since their arrest, Krar has pleaded guilty to possession of a chemical weapon, and Bruey has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons.

Who they are, what they were doing and whether they posed a danger to the public are questions that carry special resonance here in the Piney Woods of East Texas, which Krar and Bruey called home after moving to Noonday from New Hampshire in the fall of 2001.

The area, home to some self-proclaimed militia members, came under scrutiny for anti-government extremism a few years ago when John Joe Gray, then 51, took refuge on his 47-acre farm, vowing he wouldn't come out to face trial on charges that he assaulted a peace officer. Gray, a small-time building contractor, had hung a sign on his fence that read, "We are militia and will live free or die!"

<And from near the end of the article>

In lockers they rented from Staples, however, the couple were collecting explosives and toxic chemicals, federal authorities say. Their arrest sent shockwaves through sleepy Noonday, seven miles southwest of Tyler on Texas 155. Local residents said they couldn't believe a weapon of mass destruction was found in their town, best known for its sweet onions and the annual Noonday Onion Festival.

The town doesn't have a lot of crime, said Bill Lemmert, the area's longtime justice of the peace, who spends most of his time hearing traffic cases that originated on Texas 155. "I think maybe that's why they pick some of these areas because it is so quiet," he said. "Nobody suspects anything around here."

Staples, the storage facility owner, said that the discovery federal authorities made upset her. "The weapons and ammunition doesn't bother me as much as the chemicals," she said. "That's very, very scary. "It makes me angry that they would put my family's life in jeopardy."

Krar had no intentions of killing anyone, Curry said. Krar's son said his father, a former gun safety instructor for the National Rifle Association, had many firearms and a lot of ammunition. As for the racist literature and large quantities of canned food and powdered milk Krars kept at home, his son said it merely was his dad's inventory of items he would sell in his business.

Michael Krar said his dad grew up around guns and enjoyed collecting them. His grandfather was a master gunsmith for Colt Holding Corp., the son said. But what the younger Krar, the defense attorney and federal authorities haven't been able to explain, is why his dad had so many explosive materials, including the toxic sodium cyanide.

Brit Featherston, an assistant U.S. attorney and the federal government's anti-terrorism coordinator in the Eastern District of Texas, said the case also is alarming because of Krar's close ties to right-wing extremist groups. "He clearly had an affinity toward these groups," Featherston said.
 

arsbanned

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But damnit he has a RIGHT to those automatic weapons! SECOND AMENDMENT SECOND AMENDMENT!!!! :disgust:
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
But damnit he has a RIGHT to those automatic weapons! SECOND AMENDMENT SECOND AMENDMENT!!!! :disgust:

To a certain extent I agree with him.
 

FelixDeCat

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Please, this man is a kook no matter how you slice it. Just because he happens to like his gun collection doesnt make him representative of those supporting unaltered 2nd amendment rights - unless you are a follower of Michael Moore.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Please, this man is a kook no matter how you slice it. Just because he happens to like his gun collection doesnt make him representative of those supporting unaltered 2nd amendment rights - unless you are a follower of Michael Moore.

The problem is that there seem to be a whole lot of these "kooks." We need regulation of explosives and machine guns in order catch them. Or we could just wait for another Oklahoma City bombing...
 

ciba

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I'm not seeing how you can fault Ashcroft. They arrested these guys, charged them and they plead guilty. It sounds like the AG's job, doesn't it?

Oh, wait. He didn't call a press conference. Can you point me to a job description for Attorney General saying he will publicize every arrest?

There's plenty of credible stuff to blast Ashcroft on. Don't grasp for straws like this.