DOJ says it has a right to steal your identity and use it if they arrest you

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Ns1

No Lifer
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The courts have already ruled, this isn't a new case. They ruled for the DEA and said basically she consented to having her phone used as part of some deal. By consenting to having her phone used, she consented to having identity stolen too.

link?

10/7 wash post article:

The result is an ongoing New York federal civil suit that Prince, who also goes by Sandra Arquiett, has filed against the United States and DEA Agent Timothy Sinnigen.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...name-using-seized-pics-then-impersonated-her/
 

HumblePie

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Hrmm, I think the DEA went way too far in this. She did consent to allowing the info in her phone to be used to catch criminals. I think the reasonable clause would be that she was consenting to letting them find phone numbers, addresses, and maybe coded text messages to track down other drug criminals. I don't think anyone would find it reasonable the consent would be for the DEA to go as far as they did in this case of actively exposing her and her children. Especially the children as there are child protection laws for such as this I believe they went against with the facebook account.
 

smackababy

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Hrmm, I think the DEA went way too far in this. She did consent to allowing the info in her phone to be used to catch criminals. I think the reasonable clause would be that she was consenting to letting them find phone numbers, addresses, and maybe coded text messages to track down other drug criminals. I don't think anyone would find it reasonable the consent would be for the DEA to go as far as they did in this case of actively exposing her and her children. Especially the children as there are child protection laws for such as this I believe they went against with the facebook account.

I was under the impression she gave them permission to impersonate her, using her phone to text and make calls as her to suspected criminals. While, I agree that creating a fake Facebook profile is taking it to far, consenting for law enforcement to impersonate you may not be limited in scope at the moment.
 

The Merg

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Hrmm, I think the DEA went way too far in this. She did consent to allowing the info in her phone to be used to catch criminals. I think the reasonable clause would be that she was consenting to letting them find phone numbers, addresses, and maybe coded text messages to track down other drug criminals. I don't think anyone would find it reasonable the consent would be for the DEA to go as far as they did in this case of actively exposing her and her children. Especially the children as there are child protection laws for such as this I believe they went against with the facebook account.

I'd agree, although if she had some sort of agreement with them, I'd be interested to see what it says exactly.

- Merg
 

Kadarin

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I'd agree, although if she had some sort of agreement with them, I'd be interested to see what it says exactly.

- Merg

Or whether the DOJ considers that the fact that she was arrested in itself implicitly creates the "agreement".
 

runzwithsizorz

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Jan 24, 2002
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Sooo, did they round up dozens of people involved in this "drug ring"? umm, nope. Did they seize a cache of weapons, drugs and cash? umm, nope.
Did they find the dangerous meth laps, and paraphernalia? Umm, nope.
They did however manage to get 1 count of "conspiracy to possess".
Yer doin a bang up job guys.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Jan 26, 2000
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Did anyone read post #7 before continuing on with the outrage? :rolleyes:

Yes I did. If I were to ask to borrow your phone then start a facebook page with intent to sell illegal drugs would you say that's your fault and that I am blameless if I didn't tell you why I wanted it? I think not.
 

DrPizza

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I see that she gave consent to use the information, hence the DOJ is apparently off the hook. However, I think creating the fake Facebook page, which, since racy pictures were posted of her, had the effect of further ruining her character, was a step too far.

It's sort of like saying, "we have permission to use her phone and the information on her phone" is an excuse to say, "well, she has one of the keyless cars that requires you to enter a 6 digit code into a keypad. That code was on her phone, so she implicitly gave us permission to drive her car."