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Doing the desktop shuffle

KentState

KentState

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I currently run two desktops at home. One is an i7-920 w/24GB RAM and 128GB SSD that I use as a VMWare ESXi host booting off USB. The other desktop is in my signature which is used for gaming and all other tasks.

Here's the plan:

i7-920 - Give this system to family member.
i7-3370K - buy new case and psu and transfer over cpu, ram and motherboard. Will become new VMWare ESXi server. I will just user the integrated video.

New desktop - Buy new cpu, ram and motherboard and reuse all other components.

Parts so far:

NZXT Source 220 Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146083

Corsair CX500 PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139027


G.Skill 32GB RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231529


Crucial Ballistix 32GB RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&SID=u00000687


ASUS Z87-Delxue - Main things I want are dual LAN, 6+ SATA3 ports, CF/SLI 16/8 or 16/16, and overclocking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131978


Gigabyte Z87X-UD5h
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&SID=u00000687

i7-4770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116901


1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

Gaming/application development/web browsing/Word/Excel/movie ripping/VMWare Workstation/general bs

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

My budget will be dependent on what is necessary to accomplish my build. I don't believe this will cost more than $1000 if I reuse parts.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

US

4. IF you're buying parts OUTSIDE the US, please post a link to the vendor you'll be buying from.
We can't be expected to scour the internet on your behalf, chasing down deals in your specific country... Again, help us, help YOU.

N/A

5. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.

Intel for CPU, ASUS is my preference for motherboards, but I'm flexible.

6. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

7970Ghz, Blu-ray drive, SSD, monitors, keyboard, mouse, ASUS Xonar sound card, Noctua NH-D14 HS/F, Coolermaster case, Corsair HX750 psu

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

I currently overclock both the CPU and video card and would like the option

8. What resolution, not monitor size, will you be using?

2560x1440 for gaming + 2x 1080p for Windows

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Note that it is usually not cost or time effective to choose your build more than a month before you actually plan to be using it.

As soon as the parts are available

10. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software?

Have all software
 
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KentState said:
I don't plan on teaming. I like having two separate ones for dealing with VMWare Workstation networking and the other for general traffic.
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It seems like dual-NIC is what is really driving your mobo cost up. I'd consider getting a board like the Z87-A for $150 and dropping a $35 standalone Intel GigE NIC into another one of the PCIe slots. That'll end up costing less up front and over time since you can carry the NIC between builds.
 
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mfenn said:
It seems like dual-NIC is what is really driving your mobo cost up. I'd consider getting a board like the Z87-A for $150 and dropping a $35 standalone Intel GigE NIC into another one of the PCIe slots. That'll end up costing less up front and over time since you can carry the NIC between builds.
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The problem I see is lack of SATA3 connections, second NIC and 16/16 or 16/8 PCIe. I''m not budget constrained in the least bit so I'd rather have a good MB solution than trying to save $50-100 overall. The Gigabyte board still seems to be at the top of my list.
 
errr id wait on picking out haswell.
Im expecting intel to make a IHS adjustment cuz a lot of them are running HOT.

And possibly since u do Overclocked a 3930k might be a better option as it gives u 12 workable threads on a hexcore platform.
 
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KentState said:
The problem I see is lack of SATA3 connections, second NIC and 16/16 or 16/8 PCIe. I''m not budget constrained in the least bit so I'd rather have a good MB solution than trying to save $50-100 overall. The Gigabyte board still seems to be at the top of my list.
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Huh? It has all SATA 6 Gb/s ports (no such thing as SATA3) and x16/x8 PCIe. It doesn't have dual NICs, but I explained why that isn't a good idea in the long run.
 
mfenn said:
Huh? It has all SATA 6 Gb/s ports (no such thing as SATA3) and x16/x8 PCIe. It doesn't have dual NICs, but I explained why that isn't a good idea in the long run.
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I can not take your post seriously if you don't know that SATA 3 is the same thing as SATA 6 Gb/s. They are both common nomenclatures that have been used for many years.

I'm sure you will retort with some comment about provide a source so here is an Intel case study http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/serial-ata/intel-sata3-case-study.html

OCZ line of SATA 3 products:
http://ocz.com/consumer/sata-3-ssd

Example Anandtech article:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4821/macbook-pro-efi-update-reportedly-resolves-sata-3-issues
 
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KentState said:
I can not take your post seriously if you don't know that SATA 3 is the same thing as SATA 6 Gb/s. They are both common nomenclatures that have been used for many years.
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The official term for it, according to SATA IO, is "SATA6G". Which is how I refer to it.

The reason it isn't called SATA3, is because SATAII is 3Gbits, and they are easily confused, someone might read SATA3 as SATA3G, which would be SATAII.
 
http://www.sata-io.org/developers/naming_guidelines.asp

The organization responsible for all things the SATA-IO is apparently concerned with the confusion the shorthand references can cause. They are just guidelines though, and hence Intel or Anandtech have not bother to coform to them. Although, those two not following the guideline is not anything special, as they breaking them is no different from an average joe breaking it. I don't care much sticking to the guidelines since I didn't know about them, but I prefer using the Roman numeral notation myself out of habit.
 
VirtualLarry said:
The official term for it, according to SATA IO, is "SATA6G". Which is how I refer to it.

The reason it isn't called SATA3, is because SATAII is 3Gbits, and they are easily confused, someone might read SATA3 as SATA3G, which would be SATAII.
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I get it, but for some to act like the term SATA3 is a foreign concept and troll a post is another story. I agree, it can be confusing and I can switch to SATA III for future clarification. I also value the opinion of the more seasoned poster like yourself.
 
mfenn said:
It seems like dual-NIC is what is really driving your mobo cost up. I'd consider getting a board like the Z87-A for $150 and dropping a $35 standalone Intel GigE NIC into another one of the PCIe slots. That'll end up costing less up front and over time since you can carry the NIC between builds.
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Is it possible to boot with both nic enabled? I've always had trouble doing that.. :hmm:
 
KentState said:
I get it, but for some to act like the term SATA3 is a foreign concept and troll a post is another story. I agree, it can be confusing and I can switch to SATA III for future clarification. I also value the opinion of the more seasoned poster like yourself.
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I found it interesting that that document also said "SATAII" was incorrect. I've been using that forever, and so have many mfgs that I remember.
 
KentState said:
I get it, but for some to act like the term SATA3 is a foreign concept and troll a post is another story. I agree, it can be confusing and I can switch to SATA III for future clarification. I also value the opinion of the more seasoned poster like yourself.
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Right, because pointed out a nomenclature error in a parenthetical is a "troll post". I in no way acted like SATA3 was a "foreign concept," I knew the term for the technology to which you were referring and corrected you. If your response to being corrected on an Internet forum is to lash out and accuse people of trolling, then I would advise you to stop posting in technical forums.
 
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