Doh! Got ripped off on a textbook

mAdMaLuDaWg

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Well, I was looking for a textbook for a computer class I'm taking and I found this deal on Amazon that was like 50% off the original price. I knew I was getting the international edition but the dude sells me the Second edition instead of the third.
Paid $40 for the thing and class has already started.... sux!
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Well, I was looking for a textbook for a computer class I'm taking and I found this deal on Amazon that was like 50% off the original price. I knew I was getting the international edition but the dude sells me the Second edition instead of the third.
Paid $40 for the thing and class has already started.... sux!

Did he say it was the 3rd edition?
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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It was listed under "Logic and Computer Design Fundamentals and Xilinx Student Edition 4.2 Package (3rd Edition)" and nothing was mentioned in his comments.
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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Originally posted by: His Lord Uberdude
*shrug* what can ya do? :beer:

I could get a refund from Amazon if he refuses to refund BUT thats beyond the point... I'm SOL on a book right now and I'm going to have to pay full retail.
 

Mo0o

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Why dont you order another book while trying to return this book so when the new book comes you can return this one
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Why dont you order another book while trying to return this book so when the new book comes you can return this one

Yep, I'm going to have to buy from the University bookstore for 3x the amount I could buy it online :(
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Why dont you order another book while trying to return this book so when the new book comes you can return this one

Yep, I'm going to have to buy from the University bookstore for 3x the amount I could buy it online :(

Why dont you order another book online
 

DaWhim

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Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Why dont you order another book while trying to return this book so when the new book comes you can return this one

Yep, I'm going to have to buy from the University bookstore for 3x the amount I could buy it online :(

check the return for full refund day. use that as a free rental.
 

Viperoni

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Check your PM's mAd :)

There's not a whole lot of difference inbetween the 2e and 3 version's, but it will vary depending on how much different stuff the prof wants to teach.
I believe the question's are also different, not sure how much though.

I took a course requiring this book last semester, for anybody who's wondering ;)
 

PoPPeR

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oh man i hope this isn't a bad omen. I just purchased "Astronomy: Journey to the Cosmic Frontier" on half.com for $65 shipped. Bookstore price is $105 + tax. It was listed under third edition but seller didn't have the edition # in his comments.

Also weird, my syllabus says 3rd edition 2004. But apparently there are 3rd editions from 2003 and 2002 as well. Do you guys think I bought the wrong book?
 

jaybert

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if you look it up based on the ISBN #, it should be the right edition. Different versions have different ISBN #'s...so if its listed under that ISBN and he did not specifically state it was going to be 2nd edition, you should be able to receive a refund without any major issues.
 

clamum

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Originally posted by: jaybert
if you look it up based on the ISBN #, it should be the right edition. Different versions have different ISBN #'s...so if its listed under that ISBN and he did not specifically state it was going to be 2nd edition, you should be able to receive a refund without any major issues.

Ordering by ISBN # is a good idea... I go to the campus bookstore and get the ISBN #, then find it on the Internet and order it. Not that you still can't get ripped off but I would think it's a little safer. BestBookDeal is a good site to find prices.
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: jaybert
if you look it up based on the ISBN #, it should be the right edition. Different versions have different ISBN #'s...so if its listed under that ISBN and he did not specifically state it was going to be 2nd edition, you should be able to receive a refund without any major issues.

Ordering by ISBN # is a good idea... I go to the campus bookstore and get the ISBN #, then find it on the Internet and order it. Not that you still can't get ripped off but I would think it's a little safer. BestBookDeal is a good site to find prices.

Yep, exactly what I did
 

Gibson486

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are the different editions really that different?

Logic and Computer Design Fundamentals books sucks cock anyways. It's boring and explains nothing. If you pay attention and keep up in that class, you will not need the book, because it was be easy as hell. If you will be like me, and start skipping class because you hated it, then it will become hard. For homework, just do your stuff in a group or just photocopy or write the questions somwhere from a friends book.

On a related note: My electronics book is a brand new international ed. shipping from India. I do not have it yet (i have been waiting since Jan. 4) and i have my 2nd hw due monday while my "rental" book is due today.:(
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: PoPPeR
oh man i hope this isn't a bad omen. I just purchased "Astronomy: Journey to the Cosmic Frontier" on half.com for $65 shipped. Bookstore price is $105 + tax. It was listed under third edition but seller didn't have the edition # in his comments.

Also weird, my syllabus says 3rd edition 2004. But apparently there are 3rd editions from 2003 and 2002 as well. Do you guys think I bought the wrong book?



people, most of the time, different editions are not that different. Difference between editions could include same questions, but numbered differently, different questions, and added paragraph, added examples, etc. The majority of the time, the book will never be an overhaul from "ed a" to "ed. a+1".

As for the same edition in different years, it means that they updated the text due to errors.


For you people that are taking Electromagnetics.....

If you need the book Fundamentals of Applied Electromagnetics by Ulaby, the 2001 edition is also a replica of the 2004 edition.
 

dman

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
oh man i hope this isn't a bad omen. I just purchased "Astronomy: Journey to the Cosmic Frontier" on half.com for $65 shipped. Bookstore price is $105 + tax. It was listed under third edition but seller didn't have the edition # in his comments.

Also weird, my syllabus says 3rd edition 2004. But apparently there are 3rd editions from 2003 and 2002 as well. Do you guys think I bought the wrong book?



people, most of the time, different editions are not that different. Difference between editions could include same questions, but numbered differently, different questions, and added paragraph, added examples, etc. The majority of the time, the book will never be an overhaul from "ed a" to "ed. a+1".

As for the same edition in different years, it means that they updated the text due to errors.

And as we learned in economics, or was it conspiracy 101, they do this so the used book market remains noncompetitive. When the new edition comes out, buying a used book has a much higher risk factor as you don't know exactly what you are missing from the last version and hence are more likely to spend the difference to get the right version.



 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
are the different editions really that different?

Logic and Computer Design Fundamentals books sucks cock anyways. It's boring and explains nothing. If you pay attention and keep up in that class, you will not need the book, because it was be easy as hell. If you will be like me, and start skipping class because you hated it, then it will become hard. For homework, just do your stuff in a group or just photocopy or write the questions somwhere from a friends book.

On a related note: My electronics book is a brand new international ed. shipping from India. I do not have it yet (i have been waiting since Jan. 4) and i have my 2nd hw due monday while my "rental" book is due today.:(

The problem is that its a distance learning class (via the net). BTW, I briefly glanced over the syllabus and the class just seems to be a lot of Binary Algebra.... is that what this class is mainly about?
 

blakeatwork

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Dude... didn't you know that theyhave upgraded to 3.5?

:p

Chances are the 2nd ed. should have the same text/questions, just perhaps on different pages..
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: Gibson486
are the different editions really that different?

Logic and Computer Design Fundamentals books sucks cock anyways. It's boring and explains nothing. If you pay attention and keep up in that class, you will not need the book, because it was be easy as hell. If you will be like me, and start skipping class because you hated it, then it will become hard. For homework, just do your stuff in a group or just photocopy or write the questions somwhere from a friends book.

On a related note: My electronics book is a brand new international ed. shipping from India. I do not have it yet (i have been waiting since Jan. 4) and i have my 2nd hw due monday while my "rental" book is due today.:(

The problem is that its a distance learning class (via the net). BTW, I briefly glanced over the syllabus and the class just seems to be a lot of Binary Algebra.... is that what this class is mainly about?



the binary algrebra is porbably what you will learn in the first half of the class. You use this (not alot) to do the stuff in the second part of the class, which is multiplexors and building adders and all sorts of other painful boring things. You will probably breeze through the binary part (it's very easy), but not be challenged until the 2nd part of the class when you are being introduced to more complex things such as flip flops, miltiplexors, adders, etc.
 

artikk

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Originally posted by: minendo
Textbooks are useless.

Why? :confused: They(textbooks) help you do better on tests and exams. And tests and exams aren't useless. They help pass the college courses so you can get a degree.:roll:
 

Spencer278

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Oh shat. I just noticed that I purchased an old edition too. I guess f'n amazon lets people sell old editions under the current editions listing. Once that book gets here time to do a charge back and raise some hell.