Dog "Duane" Chapman arrested for arresting Andrew Luster back in 2003

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'm still down with the whole trade thing... we will trade 12 million criminals (illegal mexican immigrants) for Dog. that sounds fair to me!

I dunno... It's not like they won't all be back the next week.
Build the wall first, then do the deal.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: techs
Actually Dog has no legal right to arrest and detain anyone in Mexico.
Imagine if some Mexican judge or cop arrested you on a bogus charge and you just came back to the U.S. rather than face "Mexican Justice". Then some Mexican bounty hunter came to the U.S. and handcuffed you and transported you to Mexico for trial.
Unfortunately what Dog did was illegal and he will have to pay the price.
I rather like that the law works like that. Prevents some two bit dictator from charging Americans with crimes and putting a bounty on their head.

You're mischaracterizing the situation.

This was not a case where Dog captured a mexican national. Your example involves a mexican bounty hunter capturing an american, in america and taking him back to mexico.

This was a case where an american went to mexico to grab another american who had comitted a crime in America. Very different.

You're correct about Dog breaking the law in Mexico. But this is not a case that equates to a foreign dictator kidnapping an amerian to face trial in a a foreign country.

Wow there is streach to say it is ok to kidnap people.

Bringing that guy back is not kidnapping.

They need to tell Mexico that they can have "Dog" but they need to come and get the rest of their criminals too.

It is kidnapping if the mexican laws say it is kidnapping.

So it was kidnapping. And Dog was arrested by Mexican authorities in Mexico where he was held and released. Why after three years does the Mexican government DEMAND the U.S. arrest this guy for extradition?

It doesn't really matter mexico is free to prosucute people for breaking its laws when ever it wants to.

Yes it matters. I was in Mexico 10 years ago. I want to make sure I do not get extradited. And what about all those underage spring break college students?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: techs
Actually Dog has no legal right to arrest and detain anyone in Mexico.
Imagine if some Mexican judge or cop arrested you on a bogus charge and you just came back to the U.S. rather than face "Mexican Justice". Then some Mexican bounty hunter came to the U.S. and handcuffed you and transported you to Mexico for trial.
Unfortunately what Dog did was illegal and he will have to pay the price.
I rather like that the law works like that. Prevents some two bit dictator from charging Americans with crimes and putting a bounty on their head.

You're mischaracterizing the situation.

This was not a case where Dog captured a mexican national. Your example involves a mexican bounty hunter capturing an american, in america and taking him back to mexico.

This was a case where an american went to mexico to grab another american who had comitted a crime in America. Very different.

You're correct about Dog breaking the law in Mexico. But this is not a case that equates to a foreign dictator kidnapping an amerian to face trial in a a foreign country.

Wow there is streach to say it is ok to kidnap people.

Bringing that guy back is not kidnapping.

They need to tell Mexico that they can have "Dog" but they need to come and get the rest of their criminals too.

It is kidnapping if the mexican laws say it is kidnapping.

So it was kidnapping. And Dog was arrested by Mexican authorities in Mexico where he was held and released. Why after three years does the Mexican government DEMAND the U.S. arrest this guy for extradition?

It doesn't really matter mexico is free to prosucute people for breaking its laws when ever it wants to.

Yes it matters. I was in Mexico 10 years ago. I want to make sure I do not get extradited. And what about all those underage spring break college students?

According to the article I read, the Mexican authorities released them on a bond and they failed to appear in court, so there apparently has been an outstandiong warrant for their arrest. I guess for some reason they just decided to press the issue now?

I hope they don't go too hard on them. The guy they grabbed was nothing but a scumbag and the Mexicans should have grabbed him and sent him back to us for trial on their own accord. Of course, he was one rich SOB and the goverment down there is nothing but a legal maifia IMO.

Funny how they wouldn't grab the guy for us but they can sure raise heck about Dog "kidnaping" him. After all this time, you gotta wonder if "the wheel of justice" didn't get oiled.

 

[Narmer]

I'm confused here. They arrested in 2003 and let him go a couple of days later. Now they're asking the US Government to re-arrest him again? This makes no sense to me. If they had him before and let him go, WHY THE HELL would the US Government agree to his re-arrest? Can anyone explain this logically?

EDIT: Nevermind, The person above me explained it well. It looks like "Dog" had no respect for Mexican Justice and just skipped bail.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Narmer


EDIT: Nevermind, The person above me explained it well. It looks like "Dog" had no respect for Mexican Justice and just skipped bail.

BINGO !

He got busted - caught doing the same thing he chases people down 'as seen on TV' for.

Instant Karma

 

[episodic]

The whole thing should be ignored by the USA. Let the Federales go to Hawaii to get him if they want. . .

 

[308nato]

News linkhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9402797/

New info....the Dog thinks he is being sold out in a prisoner trade of sorts and Luster's attorneys may be behind it as well. I hope he isn't about to get boned by the Feds.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Should make a deal with the mexican govt. We send dog down if you take back your 12 millions citizens.

I'd pay to watch that episode

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Dog made bail...

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: babylon5
1) Mexican has no Bounty Hunter system like America (as far as I know)

2) Mexican citizens ILLEGALLY breaks USA laws every single day breaking into US Borders. Mexicans laugh at US laws with no respect for US laws.

But we better listen to Mexico, we dont' want to offend the almightly Mexico don't we? Give them whatever they want is US policy.

Citizen != mexican governemtn. Get this through your heads please.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This will just add to his lore and improve his ratings.

hopefully his show goes off the air after he spends 10 years in a mexican jail.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This will just add to his lore and improve his ratings.

hopefully his show goes off the air after he spends 10 years in a mexican jail.

Nice, the guy captures a repeated rapist and you think he should spend 10 years in jail for it?

I think they should slap his wrist, call him a bad boy and be done with it. He was doing them a favor.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
According to the article I read, the Mexican authorities released them on a bond and they failed to appear in court, so there apparently has been an outstandiong warrant for their arrest. I guess for some reason they just decided to press the issue now?

I hope they don't go too hard on them. The guy they grabbed was nothing but a scumbag and the Mexicans should have grabbed him and sent him back to us for trial on their own accord. Of course, he was one rich SOB and the goverment down there is nothing but a legal maifia IMO.

Funny how they wouldn't grab the guy for us but they can sure raise heck about Dog "kidnaping" him. After all this time, you gotta wonder if "the wheel of justice" didn't get oiled.

I am not sure the Mexicans knew Luster was hiding out there, but I am not 100% sure.

Also, Dog had to 'kidnap' him in order to get his reward. I think if he just called the Mexian police he would have had a lot harder time collecting the bounty.


BTW: it is nice to see that we respect the Mexican laws a lot more than they respect ours. Of course they seem to think that breaking the law and coming to America illegally is actually a "right."

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This will just add to his lore and improve his ratings.

hopefully his show goes off the air after he spends 10 years in a mexican jail.

Knowing Mexicans and the Mexican Government he should be able to buy his way out of it.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
According to the article I read, the Mexican authorities released them on a bond and they failed to appear in court, so there apparently has been an outstandiong warrant for their arrest. I guess for some reason they just decided to press the issue now?

I hope they don't go too hard on them. The guy they grabbed was nothing but a scumbag and the Mexicans should have grabbed him and sent him back to us for trial on their own accord. Of course, he was one rich SOB and the goverment down there is nothing but a legal maifia IMO.

Funny how they wouldn't grab the guy for us but they can sure raise heck about Dog "kidnaping" him. After all this time, you gotta wonder if "the wheel of justice" didn't get oiled.

I am not sure the Mexicans knew Luster was hiding out there, but I am not 100% sure.

Also, Dog had to 'kidnap' him in order to get his reward. I think if he just called the Mexian police he would have had a lot harder time collecting the bounty.


BTW: it is nice to see that we respect the Mexican laws a lot more than they respect ours. Of course they seem to think that breaking the law and coming to America illegally is actually a "right."

So what your saying is that he broke the law in order to collect his bounty, instead of doing the right thing and alerting the mexican authorities.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
According to the article I read, the Mexican authorities released them on a bond and they failed to appear in court, so there apparently has been an outstandiong warrant for their arrest. I guess for some reason they just decided to press the issue now?

I hope they don't go too hard on them. The guy they grabbed was nothing but a scumbag and the Mexicans should have grabbed him and sent him back to us for trial on their own accord. Of course, he was one rich SOB and the goverment down there is nothing but a legal maifia IMO.

Funny how they wouldn't grab the guy for us but they can sure raise heck about Dog "kidnaping" him. After all this time, you gotta wonder if "the wheel of justice" didn't get oiled.

I am not sure the Mexicans knew Luster was hiding out there, but I am not 100% sure.

Also, Dog had to 'kidnap' him in order to get his reward. I think if he just called the Mexian police he would have had a lot harder time collecting the bounty.


BTW: it is nice to see that we respect the Mexican laws a lot more than they respect ours. Of course they seem to think that breaking the law and coming to America illegally is actually a "right."

So what your saying is that he broke the law in order to collect his bounty, instead of doing the right thing and alerting the mexican authorities.

Didn't he alert the Mexicans after he caught Luster? I don't remember all the details, been a few years. But I don't think he dragged Luster all the way back to Cali under lock and key, I am pretty sure he handed him over to Mexico and Mexico handed him back.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
According to the article I read, the Mexican authorities released them on a bond and they failed to appear in court, so there apparently has been an outstandiong warrant for their arrest. I guess for some reason they just decided to press the issue now?

I hope they don't go too hard on them. The guy they grabbed was nothing but a scumbag and the Mexicans should have grabbed him and sent him back to us for trial on their own accord. Of course, he was one rich SOB and the goverment down there is nothing but a legal maifia IMO.

Funny how they wouldn't grab the guy for us but they can sure raise heck about Dog "kidnaping" him. After all this time, you gotta wonder if "the wheel of justice" didn't get oiled.

I am not sure the Mexicans knew Luster was hiding out there, but I am not 100% sure.

Also, Dog had to 'kidnap' him in order to get his reward. I think if he just called the Mexian police he would have had a lot harder time collecting the bounty.


BTW: it is nice to see that we respect the Mexican laws a lot more than they respect ours. Of course they seem to think that breaking the law and coming to America illegally is actually a "right."

So what your saying is that he broke the law in order to collect his bounty, instead of doing the right thing and alerting the mexican authorities.

Didn't he alert the Mexicans after he caught Luster? I don't remember all the details, been a few years. But I don't think he dragged Luster all the way back to Cali under lock and key, I am pretty sure he handed him over to Mexico and Mexico handed him back.

Nope.

Dog and his guys arrested Luster in Puerto Vallarta .
Witnesses to the arrest called the Mexican police and gave a description of their car.
While Dog and his crew were on his way to the PV airport they were pulled over and arrested by the police. At that point Luster was taken into custody by the Mexican police.
A few days later they posted a 15,000 peso cash bail (about $1400) and left the country.
Luster was later extradicted to the US to serve his 124 year sentence.


Dog never collected a cent on the bounty.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Didn't he alert the Mexicans after he caught Luster? I don't remember all the details, been a few years. But I don't think he dragged Luster all the way back to Cali under lock and key, I am pretty sure he handed him over to Mexico and Mexico handed him back.

Nope.

Dog and his guys arrested Luster in Puerto Vallarta .
Witnesses to the arrest called the Mexican police and gave a description of their car.
While Dog and his crew were on his way to the PV airport they were pulled over and arrested by the police. At that point Luster was taken into custody by the Mexican police.
A few days later they posted a 15,000 peso cash bail (about $1400) and left the country.
Luster was later extradicted to the US to serve his 124 year sentence.


Dog never collected a cent on the bounty.

Thank you for the info.
I still think Dog should get at most a slap on the wrist by Mexico.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Thank you for the info.
I still think Dog should get at most a slap on the wrist by Mexico.

They should give him a medal.

The bail alone is almost proof that the original charges were no big deal to the authorities there. $1371.00? Obviously they weren't very concerned about him sticking around. Just another piece to the mystery of why, all in a sudden, three years later, that act is now a slap to the soverignty of Mexico. What a bunch of crap. This is about a rich pervert's revenge and his ability to buy himself some satisfaction.

In the end, Condi has the final say over the extradition. I hope she says no. Mexico won't give up cop killers... we sure as hell shouldn't give up a good guy who did a thing that was morally correct, even if it didn't jive with Mexican law.