Doesnt it just piss you off?

LuckyTaxi

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I'm a college student hoping to graduate this coming december. I'm busting my ass off and sacrificing
things inorder to get my homework done and save money for the tuition. I'm like $15,000+ in debt
(which isnt much compared to others, but still it's money!), and what do I see?

I was with my gf today, and most of the guys I meet around her way or like gangbangers thinking
they are all that. Many drive around in their hondas with their music blasted real loud. The thing that
pissed me off the most was her friend's bf who swears he's so cool. The guy is like 20 with no job
and dropped out of HS. He was telling his gf that school is for dorks and he thinks ppl are so dumb
cuz they end up borrowing tens of thousands of dollars for school.

I dont know, maybe it's just me, but soooo many of these idiots strut around looking all hard at me.
It's just funny how they may have nice girls and nice cars, but at the same time I have to laugh when
they say they work at some ghetto place making $7/hour.

Ughhhhhhhhhhh...enough ranting.
 

Novgrod

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Here's my advice, or what's kept me on the up-and-up.

First, most people are stupid.

Second, stupid people are worthy of contempt/disdain.

Third, contempt/disdain increase your chance of contracting disease 4x (source: John Cleese's learning channel special on _the human face_.

Fourth, disease is bad and to be avoided.

A-1: Stupid people are funny

A-2: You're probably better than these stupid people

A-3: If you're better, there's no reason to feel contemptuous, since you ought not be concerned (this has its own pitfalls -ed)

A-4: Laughter is healthful.

A-5: Laughing it off is good, which you can do since you're better than them by any social-economic currency.

Conclusion: disease averted, life happier. Just avoid the stupid people, and when you do deal with them, don't condescend, but don't care too much.

I started this summer, and I've been disease free and happy since :)
 

LuckyTaxi

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Ahhh...I love your analogy. I'm going to keep it just in case I need it! Thanks dude!



<< Conclusion: disease averted, life happier. Just avoid the stupid people, and when you do deal with them, don't condescend, but don't care too much. >>



That's the problem, since seeing this girl I've been hanging out with her and some of her friends. She knows I hate it and she tells
me that Im conceited cuz I dont wanna be associated with them. Lord, why would I? It's just funny cuz I know they talk about me,
but for once I wish I could just say something like "we'll see who's on top in 5 years"
 

Novgrod

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That's the problem, since seeing this girl I've been hanging out with her and some of her friends. She knows I hate it and she tells me that Im conceited cuz I dont wanna be associated with them. Lord, why would I? It's just funny cuz I know they talk about me,
but for once I wish I could just say something like "we'll see who's on top in 5 years"



If I may ask, why are you hanging out with the girl when she has such poor taste in friends?

Reminds me of countless Really Really Bad movies where the guy rescues the girl from her awful boyfriend. If the girl is so great, what's she doing with the creep in the first place?

(suppose this isn't limited to bad movies. I saw _The Philadelphia Story_ last night, in which Katharine Hepburn is with some shmuck when her ex was Cary Grant. Who can beat Cary Grant??)
 

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I can relate. But you shouldn't let them piss you off. Just know that later on in life you'll be better off while they're still trying to achieve success with their $7.00/hour job. Also they may have pretty girlfriends now, but think about later on... I'm sure they'll get tired of having to support him and eventually find a rich guy who can take care of her. :)

my 2 cents.



<< I'm a college student hoping to graduate this coming december. I'm busting my ass off and sacrificing
things inorder to get my homework done and save money for the tuition. I'm like $15,000+ in debt
(which isnt much compared to others, but still it's money!), and what do I see?

I was with my gf today, and most of the guys I meet around her way or like gangbangers thinking
they are all that. Many drive around in their hondas with their music blasted real loud. The thing that
pissed me off the most was her friend's bf who swears he's so cool. The guy is like 20 with no job
and dropped out of HS. He was telling his gf that school is for dorks and he thinks ppl are so dumb
cuz they end up borrowing tens of thousands of dollars for school.

I dont know, maybe it's just me, but soooo many of these idiots strut around looking all hard at me.
It's just funny how they may have nice girls and nice cars, but at the same time I have to laugh when
they say they work at some ghetto place making $7/hour.

Ughhhhhhhhhhh...enough ranting.
>>

 

LuckyTaxi

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I cant help if my gf has friends like that. It's her friend's bf that pisses me off. The ppl in the area are so dumb, but I do not associate
with them. My gf is sick and tired of it also, but she has to live with it cuz her sisters' bfs are ghetto. Dude came over today to meet
her parents and he made a very very bad impression. Hair was long and he had large baggy jeans. i was surprise cuz her mother
spoke with the guy and told him he has to display himself better and stop being immature. The funny part was she gave him $10 to
get his haircut!!!! we all laughed outside when we heard.

but u guys are right. 5 years from now i can go back and smile when im in a nice car with my girl. then i can laugh at them talking about
how they have to work second shift at some ghetto place
 

dirtboy

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I would be more concerned about your gf. If she's hanging around those kinds of people, that means she may want to be like them. I believe if you want to be a drunken fool, start hanging around drunks. If you want to be a millionare, start hanging around millionares. Just don't let her association with those people drag you down...they'll try to do it, if they haven't already.
 

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<< I would be more concerned about your gf. If she's hanging around those kinds of people, that means she may want to be like them. I believe if you want to be a drunken fool, start hanging around drunks. If you want to be a millionare, start hanging around millionares. Just don't let her association with those people drag you down...they'll try to do it, if they haven't already. >>



It's not that she hangs around these idiots, but her gf is trying hard and you have to give her credit. college isn't for everyone, and she's
trying her best to make herself a better person. what bothers her is her bf who's a loser. that brings me to my next issue. my gf is so sweet and all and very caring. she's the perfect girl if you want someone who cares for you and does things for you. her mom raised
her well. however, she's not attending schoo. She has her HS diploma, but shes not attending college. shes working at some place making $7/hr, and she's the second income in her family of 7. her dad works, but i doubt he makes enough to support the family, so
thats where she comes in. now shes talking about marriage, but i dont know. would it be wrong for me to want someone on my level? someone with a college education who has a chance to get a decent job. i dont know, maybe shes the wrong person for me, but then again im confused
 

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<< but at the same time I have to laugh when they say they work at some ghetto place making $7/hour. >>

Hey man, I'm getting paid dick to deal with some of the worst people in the business. Don't laugh at people who are making an effort.

nik
 

dirtboy

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<< However, she's not attending school. She has her HS diploma, but shes not attending college. >>



Unless she has a plan to get back to school, don't expect her to go to college.



<< hes working at some place making $7/hr, and she's the second income in her family of 7. her dad works, but i doubt he makes enough to support the family, so thats where she comes in. >>



Should you get married, she will always work to support her family. Trust me. If she doesn't work, expect to give her family money.



<< Now shes talking about marriage, but i dont know. would it be wrong for me to want someone on my level? someone with a college education who has a chance to get a decent job. i dont know, maybe shes the wrong person for me, but then again im confused >>



There is nothing wrong with wanting someone on your own level. Just remember, if you marry someone, they will not change. If you try to change them, you will fail.

I understand where you're at. Just make sure you are happy with everything when you slip the ring on her finger. If you have any doubts at all, don't get married. If you want to be with someone on your own level, then go find someone!
 

gopunk

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thats where she comes in. now shes talking about marriage, but i dont know. would it be wrong for me to want someone on my level? someone with a college education who has a chance to get a decent job. i dont know, maybe shes the wrong person for me, but then again im confused

no, i can totally see where you're coming from, i think it's perfectly okay to have that instinct.
 

LuckyTaxi

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<<

<< but at the same time I have to laugh when they say they work at some ghetto place making $7/hour. >>

Hey man, I'm getting paid dick to deal with some of the worst people in the business. Don't laugh at people who are making an effort.

nik
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Dude...im not talking about ppl like you who work to make an effort. it's the fools who thinks they are better than you driving the little
hondas with the huge a$$ spoilers. they just irk me with their comments. Now, if they were making $7/hr and trying to betetr themselvs, then I have nothing against that. a job is a job and we all have to do what we have to do!



<< Unless she has a plan to get back to school, don't expect her to go to college. >>



yea i know for a fact she's not going back.



<< Should you get married, she will always work to support her family. Trust me. If she doesn't work, expect to give her family money. >>



this is what I am afraid of. Asian families stick together like super glue, and im afraid if it came to the point of us supprting her family, it would tear us apart.



<< There is nothing wrong with wanting someone on your own level. Just remember, if you marry someone, they will not change. If you try to change them, you will fail. >>



she tells me that she's afraid of losing me to another girl who has a bright future. she says she understands, but for me to say goodbye base on this wouldn't be right. i hate to be prejudice, but my mom says the same thing. i told her about my gf and my mom doesnt seem to approve of it, but she says if i love her she has no problems with it.
 

gopunk

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maybe you should hold off those thoughts about marriage... until you have a clearer picture and are less confused... just a thought :)
 

LuckyTaxi

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<< maybe you should hold off those thoughts about marriage... until you have a clearer picture and are less confused... just a thought :) >>



Oh yea, not jumping into it at all, but it was just a thought. We were together in HS for like a year, then we broke up. I've known her
since HS, and we just got back together last year. her family loves having me over and i enjoy their company. besides, if i were to get married, it would be in my mid twenties. im only 21.
 

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<< yea i know for a fact she's not going back. >>



Are you okay with that?



<< this is what I am afraid of. Asian families stick together like super glue, and im afraid if it came to the point of us supprting her family, it would tear us apart. >>



My ex-wife wasn't Asian, but she had stronger ties to her family then I realized. She pretty much told me that we would financially support her mom, no matter what. Literally every month I wrote a check for 1/4 of my take home pay to her mom. I was told if we got our own house, it had to be big enough to accomodate her. If we moved, she was following.

Does it tear two people apart? You bet it does... now I didn't get divorced for that reason, but it's nice to know I don't have to work to support someone else. :)
 

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No, it doesn't. Why? Because it will be big fun to watch them enjoying their $7.00 an hour job while you make many times that. Girls just love a guy with a wonderful uneventful blue color job and a one way trip to nowhere.
 

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Don't sweat it. Just know that in 10 years, the idiot saying school is for dorks will be saying "you want fries with that?" for a living.
 

olds

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I remember when I got out of the Army. I was working 2 jobs and going to school part time. One of those jobs was as a painter in a Section 8 (low income) apartment complex. They were all on welfare, AFDC, etc. None of them worked, they sat around all day toking weed, cigarettes and drinking. They made fun of me because I lived in a studio apartment, worked 2 jobs and drove an older (paid for) car. They had newer cars and lots of "Rent To Own" stereos, tv's, furniture, etc. I would imaging they are in the same boat today as they were then. Lack of ambition/integrity will do that to you. I now have a great State job as a Hazardous Materials Specialist/Instructor. 3 newer vehicles, boat, own home, etc.... My point is, don't ever let someone drag you down to their level and don't get frustrated. Just drive on.
 

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<<

<< yea i know for a fact she's not going back. >>





<< Are you okay with that? >>



that's what my decision may come down to. The funny thing is when Im at school with my peers, it's like im in a different world.
all these 'smart' ppl and i feel lucky to be where i am. when im at her house and going places where i meet some unfortunate ppl,
it depresses me in a way. however, her family welcomes me with open arms and i feel like i belong there. i have no worries about
anything and i would never want to leave. it would come down to two things. her not being in school and the way she is because
of the way she was brought up. her mom did a great job.



<< My ex-wife wasn't Asian, but she had stronger ties to her family then I realized. She pretty much told me that we would financially support her mom, no matter what. Literally every month I wrote a check for 1/4 of my take home pay to her mom. I was told if we got our own house, it had to be big enough to accomodate her. If we moved, she was following. >>



ouch man. that really hurts. i hate to think about having to live with someone such as an in-law or my own parents. i see what some other asian families are going through and the numbe one problem is dealing with inlaws living in the same house.

 

LuckyTaxi

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<< No, it doesn't. Why? Because it will be big fun to watch them enjoying their $7.00 an hour job while you make many times that. Girls just love a guy with a wonderful uneventful blue color job and a one way trip to nowhere. >>



yea for some reason these girls want these hardcore dude. I was talking with her friend today who's pretty hot. her bf is in jail
for hitting a cop. stupid moron. shes so prety she could get anyone she wants, but she chose him and the life of a thug. i just dont
get it. then when their man cheats on them or do something worse such as hitting them, they still stay with them saying how much
they love the guy!

it's gotta be the car, cuz i heard her say something like, "oh yea, he's got this phat honda" like a car is everything. besides, ive seen
nicer cars than hondas. it amazes me how they can show off their cars, but when someone pulls up in a beemer or lexus, they just
stand back and look in amazement.



<< Don't sweat it. Just know that in 10 years, the idiot saying school is for dorks will be saying "you want fries with that?" for a living. >>



lets hope they're still around in 10 years. there are some ppl i wanna be able to see in 10 years. those who was talking sh!t back in the day.



<< None of them worked, they sat around all day toking weed, cigarettes and drinking. They made fun of me because I lived in a studio apartment, worked 2 jobs and drove an older (paid for) car. They had newer cars and lots of "Rent To Own" stereos, tv's, furniture, etc. I would imaging they are in the same boat today as they were then. Lack of ambition/integrity will do that to you. I now have a great State job as a Hazardous Materials Specialist/Instructor. 3 newer vehicles, boat, own home, etc.... My point is, don't ever let someone drag you down to their level and don't get frustrated. Just drive on. >>



thats exactly the thing im talking about. the place i find a lot of this at is on the basketball court. we would play a group of thugs who swears they are all that. they would laugh and drink their beer on the court talking sh!t while we play. it's like thats all they have to look
forward to. the ones hanging on the corner selling dope just irks me. yea they may have the $200 pair of shoes, but you know damn well
they struggle to get that $200.

believe me, they're not dragging me down. sometimes i just get frustrated, but like you said i have to drive on! come next year, hopefully i'll be in a nice office. this stupid economy better get better! :D
 

olds

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<< yea they may have the $200 pair of shoes, but you know damn well
they struggle to get that $200.

>>


Back then I bought my shoes at Kmart. Today I can afford $200 shoes but I still buy them at Kmart.
 

IGBT

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So many American kids are in that rap/gang/crack/ibebadmf mode. To the point they are loosing job opportunities to Pakistani,Indian and former Soviet country immigrants. Their foreign counter parts are better educated and many times speak better english then the last couple of generations of American kids. And most fail pre-employment drug testing.
 

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<< So many American kids are in that rap/gang/crack/ibebadmf mode >>

I think many of those kids are in a "wannabe" phase where they just try to emulate the big game rap moguls. Is "ghetto" fabolous or jay z really the bad boys they really claims to be? Do they run the streets holding up glocks? The straight answer is no and yet they somehow market themselves to teenagers-young adults as the real deal. I am not advocating street violence or anything close to that but exposing the falsehood of these people. Wearing big pants/shirts and smoking up on a corner in a group does not make anyone "tough" or "gangstar".
These kids are just pushing away the harsh reality that lies in front of them and just concerning them with the near present. I wonder every time I see a rap video what those people (in the video and the wannabes) will think of themselves when they are sixty years old. Priorities are just screwed up. Of course there are those who claim "rebellious teenager stage" but I think it goes beyond that for these kids. These kids are the product of today's overly materialistic society where everything is appearance and not substance.
 

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If I were you I would wait till I had a solid job and was done with college before even considering getting married. Marriage is great and all if done for love, but you also have to look at it more coldly, a marriage will break apart if the only thing holding it together is love. You need financial support and security. She does not need to get a college degree, but I would ask what her goals in life were, if she doesn't know then I would start questioning if this relationship is worth it. Also consider what you want in life, do you want to live the life of a gansta drivin in yo powered by honda, honda, or a middle to upper class life with respect, if she does not want to live in this life or she doesn't fit in this life choice then dump her. Good luck.