Does your couch meet Federal standards?

Zebo

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Furniture Fire-Safety Rules Considered

Wild - I didn't know we needed to be protected from our own funiture like this.:p

Why am I not suprised by this: "California already has furniture-flammability rules."

Anyone here a fire resistant funiture advocate?

CkG

Sounds like something put in place to stop the little guy from making furniture.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Furniture Fire-Safety Rules Considered

Wild - I didn't know we needed to be protected from our own funiture like this.:p

Why am I not suprised by this: "California already has furniture-flammability rules."

Anyone here a fire resistant funiture advocate?

CkG

See Cad? CA is at the vanguard of environmental and safety laws in this country. You fools in the rest of the country can only hope to follow our progressive lead. ;):p

And if you don't like that taunt, here's another: Our governor will kick your governor's ass! EDIT: Or at very least: grope your governor's ass. Depends if your governor is male or female. PM me for specifics.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Furniture Fire-Safety Rules Considered

Wild - I didn't know we needed to be protected from our own funiture like this.:p

Why am I not suprised by this: "California already has furniture-flammability rules."

Anyone here a fire resistant funiture advocate?

CkG

See Cad? CA is at the vanguard of environmental and safety laws in this country. You fools in the rest of the country can only hope to follow our progressive lead. ;):p

And if you don't like that taunt, here's another: Our governor will kick your governor's ass! EDIT: Or at very least: grope your governor's ass. Depends if your governor is male or female. PM me for specifics.

Well, I guess if Californians need to be protected from their funiture then.....I guess they need that regulation.:p

Hehe - Sure, please send your new Govenor over hear to kick my Govenor's ass - he needs it;)

CkG

*note*-Iowa has Govenor PillageNsack(Vilsack) who doesn't know how to use email.(well he does now - since he went to the local community college to "brush up on it")
 

SViscusi

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Upholstered furniture is involved in more fire deaths than any other category of products under the CPSC's jurisdiction, the agency said. Its staff said that in 1998, the latest figures available, 420 people died, 1,080 were injured and property damage losses totaled $120 million in fires that might have been averted by a safety standard. Most of the losses -- including 340 deaths -- involved fires started by smoldering cigarettes.

Seems as good a reason as any for a standard to be set.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: SViscusi
Upholstered furniture is involved in more fire deaths than any other category of products under the CPSC's jurisdiction, the agency said. Its staff said that in 1998, the latest figures available, 420 people died, 1,080 were injured and property damage losses totaled $120 million in fires that might have been averted by a safety standard. Most of the losses -- including 340 deaths -- involved fires started by smoldering cigarettes.

Seems as good a reason as any for a standard to be set.

Yes user error. Those cigarettes could have just as easily caught other things on fire as well.
 

Aegion

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Yes user error. Those cigarettes could have just as easily caught other things on fire as well.
Its alot harder to set a solid oak chair on fire with a cigarette, electrical shorts and other events can generate the same effect. If nothing else, certain highly flamible fabrics probably shouldn't be used on upholstered furniture. The fact is most consumers are not going to be aware which particular fabrics easily catch fire and burn, so an argument can be made the government should set in an set certain standards in this instance.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Aegion
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Yes user error. Those cigarettes could have just as easily caught other things on fire as well.
Its alot harder to set a solid oak chair on fire with a cigarette, electrical shorts and other events can generate the same effect. If nothing else, certain highly flamible fabrics probably shouldn't be used on upholstered furniture. The fact is most consumers are not going to be aware which particular fabrics easily catch fire and burn, so an argument can be made the government should set in an set certain standards in this instance.

So, the gov't is supposed to once again protect us from ourselves?

Wow - it's a chair. Don't get it hot and you won't get hurt.

CkG
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Aegion
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Yes user error. Those cigarettes could have just as easily caught other things on fire as well.
Its alot harder to set a solid oak chair on fire with a cigarette, electrical shorts and other events can generate the same effect. If nothing else, certain highly flamible fabrics probably shouldn't be used on upholstered furniture. The fact is most consumers are not going to be aware which particular fabrics easily catch fire and burn, so an argument can be made the government should set in an set certain standards in this instance.

So, the gov't is supposed to once again protect us from ourselves?

Wow - it's a chair. Don't get it hot and you won't get hurt.

CkG

Amazing, blame the Couch instead of the idiot smoking a cigarette. Typical too much Government.


 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Aegion
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Yes user error. Those cigarettes could have just as easily caught other things on fire as well.
Its alot harder to set a solid oak chair on fire with a cigarette, electrical shorts and other events can generate the same effect. If nothing else, certain highly flamible fabrics probably shouldn't be used on upholstered furniture. The fact is most consumers are not going to be aware which particular fabrics easily catch fire and burn, so an argument can be made the government should set in an set certain standards in this instance.

So, the gov't is supposed to once again protect us from ourselves?

Wow - it's a chair. Don't get it hot and you won't get hurt.

CkG

Amazing, blame the Couch instead of the idiot smoking a cigarette. Typical too much Government.

hehe - maybe we should put little beeper things or strobes on every cigarette so you can't fall asleep when it's lit....oh wait...:p:D

CkG
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: SViscusi
Upholstered furniture is involved in more fire deaths than any other category of products under the CPSC's jurisdiction, the agency said. Its staff said that in 1998, the latest figures available, 420 people died, 1,080 were injured and property damage losses totaled $120 million in fires that might have been averted by a safety standard. Most of the losses -- including 340 deaths -- involved fires started by smoldering cigarettes.

Seems as good a reason as any for a standard to be set.

How bout we just ban smoking and leave the furniture alone? :D

But really, I don't need that chemical sh!t they spray on the furniture in my house... I've got enough carcinogens in my house as it is, thank you very much!
 

CaptnKirk

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Since my furniture has now been identified as being a Terrorist Threat
I am going to pre-emptively pile it out in front of the house and set it on fire -
before it can organize with other Room-Cells of furniture with simular intent.
I encourage all to get their tin-foil hats on and do the same.
Sent the remaining ash to Attourney General Ashcroft
(Oh oh, ash & Ashcroft !)
to make a statement of your Patriotism.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Since my furniture has now been identified as being a Terrorist Threat
I am going to pre-emptively pile it out in front of the house and set it on fire -
before it can organize with other Room-Cells of furniture with simular intent.
I encourage all to get their tin-foil hats on and do the same.
Sent the remaining ash to Attourney General Ashcroft
(Oh oh, ash & Ashcroft !)
to make a statement of your Patriotism.

:D

Just make sure you don't use your SUV to haul that ash anywhere...you wouldn't want to support terrorists while riding yourself of a threat.

CkG
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Since my furniture has now been identified as being a Terrorist Threat
I am going to pre-emptively pile it out in front of the house and set it on fire -
before it can organize with other Room-Cells of furniture with simular intent.
I encourage all to get their tin-foil hats on and do the same.
Sent the remaining ash to Attourney General Ashcroft
(Oh oh, ash & Ashcroft !)
to make a statement of your Patriotism.

:D

Just make sure you don't use your SUV to haul that ash anywhere...you wouldn't want to support terrorists while riding yourself of a threat.

CkG

LOL, Good one Cad

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
So, the gov't is supposed to once again protect us from ourselves?

Wow - it's a chair. Don't get it hot and you won't get hurt.

CkG

But what about all that transferred butt heat, Cad?! Some people's butts run extra hot. Have you ever sat down in a co-worker's desk chair - just for a second? I'll tell you what, it's no wonder these chairs are spontaneously combusting.
 

mastertech01

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CAD, they dont smoke tobacco in California. They have to have added protection for all them popping seeds.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: mastertech01
CAD, they dont smoke tobacco in California. They have to have added protection for all them popping seeds.

Oops - my bad. Is this the reason NewYork banned smoking everywhere too? To save the furniture?

:p:D

CkG
 

Spencer278

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If anyone want to donante there fire hazard that is also know as a leather couch to me send me a PM I could really use one. Oh and my aparment is a dump so there is no risk of real property damage should I light it on fire.
 

no0b

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ye but then again cali. has all the pollution control shiet on the cars.
 

rjain

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Just like building safety regulations are in place to stop the "little guy" from making unsafe buildings.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: rjain
Just like building safety regulations are in place to stop the "little guy" from making unsafe buildings.

And the Big guy from making unsafe buildings too.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: rjain
Just like building safety regulations are in place to stop the "little guy" from making unsafe buildings.

And the Big guy from making unsafe buildings too.

Totally different matter of life and saftey, don't listen to this rjain guy, he posts whacked posts constantly. Haven't seen Moonbeam lately, what happened to him, this guy must be a new name for Moonie.


 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: rjain
Just like building safety regulations are in place to stop the "little guy" from making unsafe buildings.

And the Big guy from making unsafe buildings too.

Totally different matter of life and saftey, don't listen to this rjain guy, he posts whacked posts constantly. Haven't seen Moonbeam lately, what happened to him, this guy must be a new name for Moonie.

Actually no - he is far from being Moony. His posts in the walmart threadS have been mostly good - I suggest it is other people ;);) that are posting the whacked out "the sky is falling" Walmart=Devil posts.:)

But yeah - in this thread it doesn't fit very well.

CkG
 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Aegion
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Yes user error. Those cigarettes could have just as easily caught other things on fire as well.
Its alot harder to set a solid oak chair on fire with a cigarette, electrical shorts and other events can generate the same effect. If nothing else, certain highly flamible fabrics probably shouldn't be used on upholstered furniture. The fact is most consumers are not going to be aware which particular fabrics easily catch fire and burn, so an argument can be made the government should set in an set certain standards in this instance.

So, the gov't is supposed to once again protect us from ourselves?

Wow - it's a chair. Don't get it hot and you won't get hurt.

CkG


I agree, but there's more to it. say some idiot ignites the couch on accident and the entire apartment complex goes up in flames. bunch of people die and several hundred homeless. When it comes to fire it really affects more than just yourself.
 

rjain

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: rjain
Just like building safety regulations are in place to stop the "little guy" from making unsafe buildings.

And the Big guy from making unsafe buildings too.

Totally different matter of life and saftey, don't listen to this rjain guy, he posts whacked posts constantly. Haven't seen Moonbeam lately, what happened to him, this guy must be a new name for Moonie.

Fire safety is different from... fire safety? Eh?

(I was responding to how this regulation is designed to put the "little guy" out of business)