Does XBOX/PS2 Do ***DAMAGE*** to TVs???????????

dr150

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My family bought last week a 36" JVC (model#: av36f704).

The Good Guys people told my family that the Xbox colors will do DAMAGE to the tv. They said they always get returns on TVs b/c they cannot handle Xbox or PS2 games as it's detrimental and ultimately fatal to LARGE size tvs like the JVC.

Can anybody please confirm or deny this.........As of now, my family won't let my brother hook up the Xbox to this new JVC tv...........




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zimu

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i don't ***think*** it does any ***damage***, we had a couple of consoles hooked up to our 27" generic tv for over a year, no ***problems*** yet.
 
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That's absurd. I would try contacting JVC, who I'm sure would agree this is false. Sounds like an old wive's tale repeated by an ignorant salesperson. It is pretty amazing to me that anyone in the business of selling electronics would say something that is a) so stupid; and b) likely to discourage sales.
 

Hammer

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i doubt it does any damage. now ***DAMAGE*** on the other hand, i can't really say.
 

MrBond

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A projection TV or a plasma TV can be damaged by static images (burn in). Video games are notorious for causing this because parts of the screen usually contain static images for displaying health/etc.

With CRT's (especially newer ones), burn-in isn't a problem. I've never noticed it on any of my CRT TVs. It sounds like the JVC your parents bought is a CRT (do they even make 36" projection TVs?), so you should be fine.
 

techfuzz

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On rear projection TV's, it is advisable NOT to use any video game system because it *could* cause irreversable damage to the phosphorus coating inside the screen. The phosphorus coating becomes damaged when a continuous image is displayed on the screen for an extended amount of time. With large screen TV's, that could be only a few hours.

I do know people who play video games on their large screen TV's without damaging them. They usually play for a few hours a day, the games they are playing are constantly changing onscreen, and if they get up for more than 5 minutes and leave the game on, they'll turn off the TV to prevent the image from being "burned" into the screen. Beware, games that have top and bottom "status" bars and windows that do not change position on the screen during gameplay could cause damage.

techfuzz
 

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Originally posted by: techfuzz
On rear projection TV's, it is advisable NOT to use any video game system because it *could* cause irreversable damage to the phosphorus coating inside the screen. The phosphorus coating becomes damaged when a continuous image is displayed on the screen for an extended amount of time. With large screen TV's, that could be only a few hours.

I do know people who play video games on their large screen TV's without damaging them. They usually play for a few hours a day, the games they are playing are constantly changing onscreen, and if they get up for more than 5 minutes and leave the game on, they'll turn off the TV to prevent the image from being "burned" into the screen. Beware, games that have top and bottom "status" bars and windows that do not change position on the screen during gameplay could cause damage.

techfuzz

This happened to my friend's large and expensive TV. I can't remember the game he played, but it did burn in and ruined the TV.


 

oniq

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Riiight, because Xbox/PS2 colors are so much different than a TV show's colors.
 

Coquito

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So I can't watch NY1 on a projection tv, because they have a static image of their logo & the local temperature in the corner?
 

bleeb

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Actually ALL tvs have the possibilty of getting burned in.

Also if the salesman has experienced people bringing in their TVs because of burn problems then there might actually be something. WHY would a salesman tell you about a problem if he's trying to sell you something?? By telling you about the problem, he's covering his ass.
 

flot

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Sounds like the salesperson was trying to talk them into buying a more expensive TV that "wouldn't have this problem."

As others have said, if it is a tube tv, there should be no problems. Even if it is a projection TV, there *should* be no problems, but it is a possibility.

 

Jesta

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I've use both PS2 and XBox on my rear projection tv for years without a problem. I do remember reading this in the PS2 manual but disregarded it. No problems, no burn in.
 

zimu

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Originally posted by: oniq
Riiight, because Xbox/PS2 colors are so much different than a TV show's colors.

the difference is how static the images are... tv shows are constantly moving images; whereas games may have health bars etc as said before
 

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Originally posted by: zimu
Originally posted by: oniq
Riiight, because Xbox/PS2 colors are so much different than a TV show's colors.

the difference is how static the images are... tv shows are constantly moving images; whereas games may have health bars etc as said before

Have you ever noticed how the TV station's logo is located at the same spot? Watch CNN or some other stations with their station logo at the bottom left or right of the screen.
 

Whisper

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I've accidentally fallen asleep while playing a game on my 27" Samsung, woke up about 7 hours later, and never noticed any burn-in. CRT's are a lot more resistent to this type of thing, and as has been said, I really doubt that the TV you bought is rear-projection. So unless that's the case (or it's plasma), you should be alright.
 

kaymin

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I have a 20" Panasonic Tau Flat Screen.

I shouldn't have any problems playing my xbox on it right?
 

Actaeon

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Funny thing is...

I have an Xbox and PS2 hooked up to a 35" JVC. The Xbox has been there for almost 2 years, PS2 for about 6 months. I play my Xbox constantly, sometimes many hours a day.

No damage here.
 

Ikonomi

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Uh. I remember when burn-in from game systems was a problem for projection TVs. It has nevaaar been a problem for normal or widescreen TVs. I remember a story about a guy with a channel logo burned into his plasma screen, but that's plasma.

Dunno WTF the sales people were thinking.
 

FeathersMcGraw

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Originally posted by: techfuzz
On rear projection TV's, it is advisable NOT to use any video game system because it *could* cause irreversable damage to the phosphorus coating inside the screen. The phosphorus coating becomes damaged when a continuous image is displayed on the screen for an extended amount of time. With large screen TV's, that could be only a few hours.

This is more of a problem with older projection TVs than newer ones (it also affects CRTs, but the burn-in period is probably on the order of weeks or months). It can be mitigated by lowering the brightness/contrast on your set (most TVs are calibrated too high anyways).

My understanding is that newer DLP screens are effectively immune to this problem.
 

dman

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Smack the salesman. He was probably trying to hook you into getting an extended warranty.


 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: techfuzz
On rear projection TV's, it is advisable NOT to use any video game system because it *could* cause irreversable damage to the phosphorus coating inside the screen. The phosphorus coating becomes damaged when a continuous image is displayed on the screen for an extended amount of time. With large screen TV's, that could be only a few hours.

This is more of a problem with older projection TVs than newer ones...
I've played Xbox/GC/PS2 on my RPTV for exponentially more than "only a few hours" without issue.

 

MustISO

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LCD's and DLP's are immune as are direct view sets. I've never heard of a single case of CRT burn-in on a direct view TV (on anything remotely modern).

Any and all projection TV's that are CRT based can get burn-in, same with Plasma TV's. I've seen it on quite a few Proj TV's. It's not just games. Watching only movies that are a certain aspect ratio, watching only 4:3 material on a widescreen, video games, etc. Those CNN tickers will leave a nice burn mark as will the station logos that are not transparent.

Best thing to do is turn down the contrast. Most TV's come from the factory set at 100%. This is WAY too much. It should be reduced to below 50%. CRT's in a projection screen TV are driven harder to produce the same light output as a direct view TV. That's why it can happen easily. Most people don't know this and leave the factory default settings. Sucks when you've got a $3,000 TV and burn in. BTW, this can happen on front projectors as well (CRT based).

I would not worry about a direct view set. I use a 27" Sony for my PS2. My big TV is just for movies.