Does this Notebook exist?

[Morgray]

In the next month I want to buy a new Notebook or a tablet/hybrid.

I want it to be less than 15", and I dont necessarily need a dgpu as the few games I would play should run fine on the igp, and i want it to be less than 25mm in height/thickness.

One device that peeked my interest is the Gigabyte P34G, Core i5-4200H, 4GB RAM, 500GB, NV GTX 760M. The reason why is the non U cpu and only 21mm height. What I dont like is that it has only about 2,5 hours on web browsing and i dont really need the dgpu.


So I am wondering if a similar notebook exists that packs a non U processor in a slim chassis ( less than 25mm) with better battery life?

Thanks for any kind of help

 

[Hulk]

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-13-3-In...rds=yoga+2+pro

This one looks to fit your requirements.

 

[Morgray]

Thank you Hulk, but it does not really fit my requirements.

Yes it is slim and less than 15" but the U processor obviously is what did not fit my description.

But it was my fault I was too unclear in my initial post.

I should list my wishful requirements again and this time in a more complete way:

Atleast I5 Haswell, no U-type.
Less than 15" screen.
Less than 25mm thick.
Resolution should be 1920x1080.
Atleast 3,5h ish web browsing, the more the better.
Dont need a dgpu, but wouldnt mind one if battery life is good.
A touchscreen would be nice, but not required.

Basically as I said before, the Gigabyte P34G with better battery life and maybe no dgpu.

Does something like that exist? I have looked at atleast 30-40 laptops, but sofar have not really found anything.

 

[SithSolo1]

The new Razer Blade probably fits the bill but they start at $2200. http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade/

 

[Commodus]

13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display?

It has a minimum 2.4GHz Core i5, an 0.7-inch thick body, a 2560x1600 display and 9 hours of real-world battery life (I know, I own one!).

 

[Hulk]

Thank you Hulk, but it does not really fit my requirements.

Yes it is slim and less than 15" but the U processor obviously is what did not fit my description.

But it was my fault I was too unclear in my initial post.

I should list my wishful requirements again and this time in a more complete way:

Atleast I5 Haswell, no U-type.
Less than 15" screen.
Less than 25mm thick.
Resolution should be 1920x1080.
Atleast 3,5h ish web browsing, the more the better.
Dont need a dgpu, but wouldnt mind one if battery life is good.
A touchscreen would be nice, but not required.

Basically as I said before, the Gigabyte P34G with better battery life and maybe no dgpu.

Does something like that exist? I have looked at atleast 30-40 laptops, but sofar have not really found anything.

I didn't read closely enough.

The 4500u CPU in the unit I linked gives up only 400Mhz in CPU turbo speed and 50MHz in GPU speed, and it has a larger L3 cache, 4MB vs. 3MB, compared to the CPU in the unit you specified.
Those speed differences will be pretty much imperceptible.
Just saying you might want to reconsider the processor choice if battery life is important.

 

[ultimatebob]

13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display?

It has a minimum 2.4GHz Core i5, an 0.7-inch thick body, a 2560x1600 display and 9 hours of real-world battery life (I know, I own one!).

It would be a better price than that Razor Blade, too, and the Macbook build quality is top notch.

 

[HOSED]

Please see my mini-review of the Sager NP2740 http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36047351&postcount=11
http://www.gentechpc.com/config.asp?config_id=Sager%2DNP2740
NOTE if you go with one of these you may want to avoid the free upgrade to the Intel 7260 wireless module.

 

[ViRGE]

NOTE if you go with one of these you may want to avoid the free upgrade to the Intel 7260 wireless module.

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with the 7260?

 

[Morgray]

Please see my mini-review of the Sager NP2740 http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36047351&postcount=11
http://www.gentechpc.com/config.asp?config_id=Sager%2DNP2740
NOTE if you go with one of these you may want to avoid the free upgrade to the Intel 7260 wireless module.

Wow nice that Laptop does indeed look very interesting and fitting. If you can give me more information about battery life it would be awesome. I actually decided it would definately be nice to have something stronger than the standard integrated graphics (4400/4600) so in case I need more GPU power, it is availible and sofar the Iris Pro benches I've looked at definately would fit.

Thank you very much for this recommendation, it is much appreciated.
I hope they ship to Germany since that is very I reside currently.

Also after doing more research, I have found out that many Haswell-U model laptops are actually capable of sustaining the Turbo Boost frequency very well.

If I would think about a priority order considering the baseline is a slim <15" for me, I think it would look like this.


CPU>Battery Life>GPU>IPS>Touchscreen.

Knowing that the Turbo Boost freq can be sustained very well on some devices, I have included the upcoming ASUS Zenbook UX32LN-R4052H

http://geizhals.de/asus-zenbook-ux32ln-r4052h-90nb0521-m00880-a1083825.html

and the Acer Aspire S3-392G

http://geizhals.de/eu/acer-aspire-s3-392g-54204g1-02ttws-nx-mdweg-003-a1053785.html

Though both of these models feature U-CPUs , according to reviews, they can sustain their Turbo Frequency very well. Since battery life is very important to me, especially battery life under heavy use, I am considering the Zenbook more atm since it comes with a new Maxwell GPU, and as we know Maxwell is supposed to feature much better power utilisation.

There is not yet a review availible for the upcoming Zenbook, so I will wait atleast until that date (should be around the 10th of April).

But I have to say, that Sager Notebook seems to fit my requirements perfectly.

I am wondering, if I would buy that Clevo for 1019$USD , would it only cost me ~750&#8364; since that is the price with the current exchange rate?

 

[HOSED]

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with the 7260?

I added that info because quite a few people have reported issues with the card/drivers (limited range, slow speeds) for example: http://forum.notebookreview.com/networking-wireless/716325-intel-7260-a-28.html#post9532015
I am using the stock Realtek RTL8723A & do not have any issues.
Morgray with win 7 running, brightness ~40 % and surfing & email I get ~ 4 hours battery life.
Not sure about exchange rates but I know Ken Lee (of GenTechPC) will have the answer.

 

[ultimatebob]

Oh, one piece of warning... ALL laptops have crap battery life while gaming on them, even when it's a "light" game.

Both my old Dell XPS 15 (with the big battery) and my new Macbook Pro promise "up to" 6 hours of battery life. I can kill the battery on both of them in 90 minutes while playing Simcity on Medium detail settings.

 

[Morgray]

Heya, sorry for not responding for such a long time.

After researching the Sager NP2740 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Schenker-S413-Clevo-W740SU-Notebook.98313.0.html I have chosen that this will not be the laptop I will buy, as I was surpised by the intense thottling to 1,3 Ghz while on battery. Also the power consupmtion of that 47w TDP chip reaches over 70w...that is funny.

But I researched the Gigabyte p34g a bit more and have come to the conclusion that the things that bothered me, aren't actually that drastic and battery life per user reviews seem to be better than the picture I got from various review sites. Also since Nvidia Optimus is working really well, I am not turned away by the dGPU anymore, but see it as an added bonus now, which I might even utilize more than I initially thought.

I know that the p34g v2 with 860gtx maxwell GPU is about to be released, so I will hold off until the end of this month when more infos are availible and then purchase either the p34g or the p34g v2.

Also at ~750&#8364; a thin,small and lightweight notebook with a Core i5-4200H and a nVidia GTX 760M is a very good deal imo.

BTW all the reviews for the P34G I have found use the I7 4700HQ model. The one I will be getting is the I5 4200H one. I know that both have a TDP of 47W but what are the chances that they will actually use the same watts? Since the Iris Pro model with the same TDP can use up over 70w, does anyone know if the I5 uses less than the I7 Quad core?

 

[HOSED]

Excellent choice Morgray ... I had to ship my Sager back very recently due to a broken hinge. Best of luck with the gigabyte.... It is funny but Gentech tried to steer me toward the P34 prior to purchase but I figured (WRONGLY) since I could return it in the first 15 days no questions asked I would be satisfied. Also on my Sager it is nearly impossible to remove a network cable from the jack.
I got mine back from RMA and all issues are fixed! If took 8 days (from east coast to California) The hinge is perfect and the light bleed on a black background is no longer noticeable. I am very impressed with the level of service.
PS I have read that gaming on battery will also will shorten battery life (longevity) . Does anyone have an opinion on this?

 

[JeffMD]

What is your beef with ULV processors? You seem to be looking for battery life and not gaming, ULV would be perfect.

 

[AngryCorgi]

The 4200H CPU is a 47W part. That laptop isn't burning thru the battery in 2.5 hours because of the dGPU, its burning thru it because the dang CPU is immensely power-inefficient. I think the 4200H would be the LAST processor you'd want, given your requirements. If battery longevity is a high concern, you are best to look at the U and maybe even Y series Haswells. The 4200H is not the CPU you are looking for.

 

[Morgray]

The 4200H CPU is a 47W part. That laptop isn't burning thru the battery in 2.5 hours because of the dGPU, its burning thru it because the dang CPU is immensely power-inefficient. I think the 4200H would be the LAST processor you'd want, given your requirements. If battery longevity is a high concern, you are best to look at the U and maybe even Y series Haswells. The 4200H is not the CPU you are looking for.

Thank you for your message. The reason why I DO want the 4200H, is due to the fact that for the things I plan to be doing or maybe be doing (atleast leaving open the possibility) it would come in handy to have a rather strong CPU (for emulators for example).
Also I understood that evryone's definition of good battery life differs. Atm I am using a 6 or more year old Notebook with a T2330 and a HD2400 with 2GB of DDR2 Ram which has about 45-60 minutes of battery life .

So 2-5 hours actually do classify as good for me which the P34G will offer.

Speaking of P34G, I actually decided to order it yesterday. At 769&#8364; nothing really comes close to it. The model I ordered is the one with only 4Gb of Ram and no SSD, which I will porbably upgrade next month. If anyone is interested, I will most likely do a mini-review once I have it and had time to test it.