Originally posted by: halfadder
Use froogle and/or some coupons to buy a 256 MB flash MP3 player for $19 - $29.
iPod Shuffle is insanely overpriced.
A 256MB player is a joke. To get any decent number of songs on it, you'll have to use a LOW bitrate on them which will make them sound like CRAP. Just as most other MP3 makers try to beat the song count that the iPod's offer. The ONLY way they do that is posting at 64kb rates (or lower). IF they were to offer up song count at the same bitrate, then the counts would be either the same or so close to not matter. I use 192kbps bitrate on just about all of my music. There are some that are lower, and some that are higher. That takes up just over 5.25GB on my hard drive. At some point in the near future, I plan to reimport my tunes at 256kbps bitrate to get them to sound even better under all uses. With 20GB on my iPod, I have plenty of room for this.
As for the cheap players you're talking about... good f***ing luck. I know someone that picked up a different mp3 player for his wife for the holidays and he seriously regrets it. Getting it to hook up to either her windows laptop or his Mac laptop was a major task (due to the hardware and crap software that came with the player). We were able to get him to [finally] get it to work with his Mac laptop, but it simply refuses to work with her windows laptop (I'm not going to trouble shoot it any further, we did everything we could think of and it still refused to work).
Considering the design and such of the Shuffle, I don't see it as over priced. You can easily connect an external power pack to it and get an extra 20 hours of play time out of it off of a pair of AA batteries. Plus, you can charge it up and run without the pack via the USB connection on it. You don't need ANY cables to connect it to your computer, which most other players require.
Ultimately, the Shuffle is NOT for everyone. With the amount of music on my system, the full size iPod is for me. I like being able to select from the ~1000 songs at any given time and play them. After owning the iPod (on my third one, selling previous ones to get the newer ones) I wouldn't go with other players. IF I wanted to, I could put movies onto my PDA, but I wouldn't want to since watching movies on a screen that small is not something I'd do (too f****ing small to be able to watch). I can take my laptop with me if I will be someplace without a dvd player and want to watch something.
As for coupons and rebates... f**k them... The ONLY rebates worth a damn are the instant ones. Otherwise, you run the very real risk of never seeing the rebate. The companies offering them can select to NOT honor them for any number of reasons. Coupons expire, usually right before you intend to use them. Or you can't use combinations unless you know someone that works where you're getting the item from. Even then, with computer controlled registers, it's next to impossible.