Does the HD4870 1GB have enough juice for a 30" LCD?

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Why don't you guys take your internet cred war to PM's so it doesn't burn our eyes? Sounds like a plan.

It does sound like a plan, but what is gonna stop the spread of misguiding information.

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: apoppin


i simply do not agree with you about a "little" AA
-i really believe when you finally DO get it, you will be touting it all over Anandtech

Apop, I do get it. How long you been hi res gaming? I've been on a 24 for 2.5 years and on a 20 inch widescreen for 2 years before that. I know what kind of card it takes to drive this kind of resolution. In July I came from 2 8800 GT's, and before that 8800 GTX and before that an X1900 XTX. I'm well aware of AA and how it affects cards performances at this kind of resolution. As far as touting it at AT..... NEVER!! I'm not a bragger and am not into selling people on more than they need. I only tend to speak when I see people getting on thier high horses cause it's always fun to knock back down to a more appropriate level.

I woulld love to get an X2 but for me their is no need becasue this card is doing fine at 1920X1200 and besides I'm sure the next cards are close enough for me to start saving my pocket change now

i have never been hi-res gaming

only 19x12

i tried hi-res 25x16 and it is a bit "much" for me
... at least for now

So now, after that BS talk-down preachy spiel of yours to me; how you are the "expert" and you imply we should all worship your opinion because of the length of time you have been gaming at 16x10 {wow} and 19x12 and you just "know" what is best for all of us - you contradict yourself and say, You'd *love* to get an X2

- well i have a 4870 that i tried gaming at 19x12 - first ... and for me it was insufficient .. so i did get an X2
. . . i am saving my change for GTX290/280 sli; i have half a pair now. Then i will know about Nvidia multi-GPU also and be able to directly compare crossfire with sli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: apoppin


i simply do not agree with you about a "little" AA
-i really believe when you finally DO get it, you will be touting it all over Anandtech

Apop, I do get it. How long you been hi res gaming? I've been on a 24 for 2.5 years and on a 20 inch widescreen for 2 years before that. I know what kind of card it takes to drive this kind of resolution. In July I came from 2 8800 GT's, and before that 8800 GTX and before that an X1900 XTX. I'm well aware of AA and how it affects cards performances at this kind of resolution. As far as touting it at AT..... NEVER!! I'm not a bragger and am not into selling people on more than they need. I only tend to speak when I see people getting on thier high horses cause it's always fun to knock back down to a more appropriate level.

I woulld love to get an X2 but for me their is no need becasue this card is doing fine at 1920X1200 and besides I'm sure the next cards are close enough for me to start saving my pocket change now

i have never been hi-res gaming

only 19x12

i tried hi-res 25x16 and it is a bit "much" for me
... at least for now

So now, after that BS talk-down preachy spiel of yours to me; how you are the "expert" and you imply we should all worship your opinion because of the length of time you have been gaming at 16x10 {wow} and 19x12 and you just "know" what is best for all of us - you contradict yourself and say, You'd *love* to get an X2

- well i have a 4870 that i tried gaming at 19x12 - first ... and for me it was insufficient .. so i did get an X2
. . . i am saving my change for GTX290/280 sli; i have half a pair now. Then i will know about Nvidia multi-GPU also and be able to directly compare crossfire with sli

Like this load. I don't get it Hi res gaming only consist of 2560X1600 ? HUH? Maybe I'm crazy but the highest resolution TV you can buy is 1080p. The second highest LCD monitor resolution you can buy is "1200p". So the only consumer hi resolution is 2560x1600? WTF? I wasn't claiming to be an expert just saying I've been playing around in a league for a few years that Apoppin just started to get his feet wet in.

Well, I already said 2 posts ago that I was tired of this kinda of nonsense. This is my last rebutal in here.

Yup, I'm all for crushing FUD when I see it. No, I don't "think" a single 4870 1GB is adequate for 2560x1600 at high settings, and in some games even mediocre settings. Not by a longshot. But I can't really say for sure, as I can only game at 1920x1200 myself.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Why don't you guys take your internet cred war to PM's so it doesn't burn our eyes? Sounds like a plan.

It does sound like a plan, but what is gonna stop the spread of misguiding information.

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: apoppin


i simply do not agree with you about a "little" AA
-i really believe when you finally DO get it, you will be touting it all over Anandtech

Apop, I do get it. How long you been hi res gaming? I've been on a 24 for 2.5 years and on a 20 inch widescreen for 2 years before that. I know what kind of card it takes to drive this kind of resolution. In July I came from 2 8800 GT's, and before that 8800 GTX and before that an X1900 XTX. I'm well aware of AA and how it affects cards performances at this kind of resolution. As far as touting it at AT..... NEVER!! I'm not a bragger and am not into selling people on more than they need. I only tend to speak when I see people getting on thier high horses cause it's always fun to knock back down to a more appropriate level.

I woulld love to get an X2 but for me their is no need becasue this card is doing fine at 1920X1200 and besides I'm sure the next cards are close enough for me to start saving my pocket change now

i have never been hi-res gaming

only 19x12

i tried hi-res 25x16 and it is a bit "much" for me
... at least for now

So now, after that BS talk-down preachy spiel of yours to me; how you are the "expert" and you imply we should all worship your opinion because of the length of time you have been gaming at 16x10 {wow} and 19x12 and you just "know" what is best for all of us - you contradict yourself and say, You'd *love* to get an X2

- well i have a 4870 that i tried gaming at 19x12 - first ... and for me it was insufficient .. so i did get an X2
. . . i am saving my change for GTX290/280 sli; i have half a pair now. Then i will know about Nvidia multi-GPU also and be able to directly compare crossfire with sli

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: apoppin


i simply do not agree with you about a "little" AA
-i really believe when you finally DO get it, you will be touting it all over Anandtech

Apop, I do get it. How long you been hi res gaming? I've been on a 24 for 2.5 years and on a 20 inch widescreen for 2 years before that. I know what kind of card it takes to drive this kind of resolution. In July I came from 2 8800 GT's, and before that 8800 GTX and before that an X1900 XTX. I'm well aware of AA and how it affects cards performances at this kind of resolution. As far as touting it at AT..... NEVER!! I'm not a bragger and am not into selling people on more than they need. I only tend to speak when I see people getting on thier high horses cause it's always fun to knock back down to a more appropriate level.

I woulld love to get an X2 but for me their is no need becasue this card is doing fine at 1920X1200 and besides I'm sure the next cards are close enough for me to start saving my pocket change now

i have never been hi-res gaming

only 19x12

i tried hi-res 25x16 and it is a bit "much" for me
... at least for now

So now, after that BS talk-down preachy spiel of yours to me; how you are the "expert" and you imply we should all worship your opinion because of the length of time you have been gaming at 16x10 {wow} and 19x12 and you just "know" what is best for all of us - you contradict yourself and say, You'd *love* to get an X2

- well i have a 4870 that i tried gaming at 19x12 - first ... and for me it was insufficient .. so i did get an X2
. . . i am saving my change for GTX290/280 sli; i have half a pair now. Then i will know about Nvidia multi-GPU also and be able to directly compare crossfire with sli

Like this load. I don't get it Hi res gaming only consist of 2560X1600 ? HUH? Maybe I'm crazy but the highest resolution TV you can buy is 1080p. The second highest LCD monitor resolution you can buy is "1200p". So the only consumer hi resolution is 2560x1600? WTF? I wasn't claiming to be an expert just saying I've been playing around in a league for a few years that Apoppin just started to get his feet wet in.

Well, I already said 2 posts ago that I was tired of this kinda of nonsense. This is my last rebutal in here.

Yup, I'm all for crushing FUD when I see it. No, I don't "think" a single 4870 1GB is adequate for 2560x1600 at high settings, and in some games even mediocre settings. Not by a longshot. But I can't really say for sure, as I can only game at 1920x1200 myself.

so you join in?


So do you *think* a GTX260[+] is sufficient for a 19x12 LCD at completely maxed out DX10 settings with 4xAA ?
- do you?

it is not for me .. not a GTX280 .. although it almost is ,, if i close my eyes and pretend

 

[SlowSpyder]

Did the OP say he needs 4xAA? Personally, I almost never play with AA as I only notice it in still screen shots. I think some people with really high end rigs it might be hard to go back to lesser hardware, but for a lot of us playing the only way we've ever known (single cards/lower AA settings) could get by on less video card and a 30" monitor.

I'm not saying a 48701GB is enough for a 30", but I'm certinaly not convinced it isn't either. The benches show pretty much all games are playable from what I've seen, certainly not maxed at 8xAA. And I do agree with the point that if you are going to pay $1k for a monitor why not put out a little cheddar to drive it? But, with that being said there is no reason someone couldn't buy a 48701GB and add another (or more) if it isn't up to task assuming their board supports x-fire.

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Did the OP say he needs 4xAA? Personally, I almost never play with AA as I only notice it in still screen shots. I think some people with really high end rigs it might be hard to go back to lesser hardware, but for a lot of us playing the only way we've ever known (single cards/lower AA settings) could get by on less video card and a 30" monitor.

I'm not saying a 48701GB is enough for a 30", but I'm certinaly not convinced it isn't either. The benches show pretty much all games are playable from what I've seen, certainly not maxed at 8xAA. And I do agree with the point that if you are going to pay $1k for a monitor why not put out a little cheddar to drive it? But, with that being said there is no reason someone couldn't buy a 48701GB and add another (or more) if it isn't up to task assuming their board supports x-fire.

This is pretty much my take as well. The hd4870 may not be play 100% of the games out there with the highest quality settings including high levels of AA @ 2560x1600 but I bet it will play a huge chunk of them with most graphics options turned up. For a measly $200 bucks that sounds good to me, or even a gtx260. No bias here.

It would definately serve as a good stop gap card until the next generation comes out in not too long. I don't really see a reason to pony up the loot for an X2 or GTX 295 this late in the game since they will most surely lose a ton of resale value.

I do recommend however that this thread be locked due to the excessive thread crapping done by myself and otheres to be left un named.

 

[n7]

Okay, wtf...

Guess what cards have powered my 2560x1600 30"?

First one: X1900XT 512 MB. Yes, that's right.
Second one: 8800 GTX 768 MB
Presently: GTX 280
Now for those wanting to play the absolute latest most demanding games out there fully maxed & w/ AA, a single HD 4870 1 GB is going to be in trouble.

But for the majority of games out there, as long as AA is left off or sometimes, settings turned down s lightly, a 4870 1 GB is going to be quite fine.

My 8800 GTX actually did just fine w/ 2560x1600 for all the games i played other than UT3 at maxed settings, where i had fps a bit lower than ideal.

But for games where you must have the details cranked & 2560x1600 is a little too much, you can always drop down to 2048x1536 or 1920x1440/1920x1200 & be golden.

The idea that you need CF or SLI or sandwich cards just to enjoy 2560x1600 is utter horsesh!t.

All those "top games" appopin mentioned are pretty much all single player ones with no replayability too...so unless you are the kinda person who plays his single player titles over & over, you can enjoy MP games out there just fine again & again with a lowly 4870 1 GB. :roll:

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: n7
Okay, wtf...

Guess what cards have powered my 2560x1600 30"?

First one: X1900XT 512 MB. Yes, that's right.
Second one: 8800 GTX 768 MB
Presently: GTX 280
Now for those wanting to play the absolute latest most demanding games out there fully maxed & w/ AA, a single HD 4870 1 GB is going to be in trouble.

But for the majority of games out there, as long as AA is left off or sometimes, settings turned down s lightly, a 4870 1 GB is going to be quite fine.

My 8800 GTX actually did just fine w/ 2560x1600 for all the games i played other than UT3 at maxed settings, where i had fps a bit lower than ideal.

But for games where you must have the details cranked & 2560x1600 is a little too much, you can always drop down to 2048x1536 or 1920x1440/1920x1200 & be golden.

The idea that you need CF or SLI or sandwich cards just to enjoy 2560x1600 is utter horsesh!t.

All those "top games" appopin mentioned are pretty much all single player ones with no replayability too...so unless you are the kinda person who plays his single player titles over & over, you can enjoy MP games out there just fine again & again with a lowly 4870 1 GB. :roll:

Pretty much confirmed what I was guessing, thanks n7 for clarifying what us speculaters were arguing about.

 

[yh125d]

VC&G used to be so peaceful

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: yh125d
VC&G used to be so peaceful

I do not recall such a time.

 

[uclaLabrat]

I'm using a 4870X2 on my Samsung 305t (sexy as hell, by the way) and the card does pretty well. Full res, full eye candy on COD4, but COD:WaW has a much harder time with it. I think the textures are a lot more intense on the card, and I think the game just isn't quite coded as well to boot. I got through the single player with most of the eye candy on (albeit with a lot of stuttering on some levels) but for MP I had to tone it down a bit, AA off, shadows off, etc. It plays pretty well now, but it's still not as fluid as COD4. With the new rig, my K ratio went way up on COD4, with WaW I'm still getting my ass kicked. I really need to OC my i7 920 though, It's running at like 2.8G right now. Story for another day I suppose.

So, in the end, it really depends on the game. COD4 is coded really, really well and runs well on just about anything. Other games will have trouble even with an X2 at full eye candy.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003


Yup, I'm all for crushing FUD when I see it. No, I don't "think" a single 4870 1GB is adequate for 2560x1600 at high settings, and in some games even mediocre settings. Not by a longshot. But I can't really say for sure, as I can only game at 1920x1200 myself.

so you join in?


So do you *think* a GTX260[+] is sufficient for a 19x12 LCD at completely maxed out DX10 settings with 4xAA ?
- do you?

it is not for me .. not a GTX280 .. although it almost is ,, if i close my eyes and pretend

Whatever I said about the 4870 1GB goes the same for the GTX260. They are in the same performance class. AND I have repeatedly recommended either a 4870 1GB or a GTX260 for people playing above 1680x1050 on monitors that support 19x12..

The GTX280 I have easily handled all games I threw at it with maxxed settings and AA at 1920x1200, with the single exception of Crysis as per ususal. This leads me to believe the GTX260 and 4870 1GB can handle this as well. Even my 9800GTX+ plays many games well with AA at 19x12. Sometimes I have to turn it down a notch to 16x10.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: n7
Okay, wtf...

Guess what cards have powered my 2560x1600 30"?

First one: X1900XT 512 MB. Yes, that's right.
Second one: 8800 GTX 768 MB
Presently: GTX 280
Now for those wanting to play the absolute latest most demanding games out there fully maxed & w/ AA, a single HD 4870 1 GB is going to be in trouble.

But for the majority of games out there, as long as AA is left off or sometimes, settings turned down s lightly, a 4870 1 GB is going to be quite fine.

My 8800 GTX actually did just fine w/ 2560x1600 for all the games i played other than UT3 at maxed settings, where i had fps a bit lower than ideal.

But for games where you must have the details cranked & 2560x1600 is a little too much, you can always drop down to 2048x1536 or 1920x1440/1920x1200 & be golden.

The idea that you need CF or SLI or sandwich cards just to enjoy 2560x1600 is utter horsesh!t.

All those "top games" appopin mentioned are pretty much all single player ones with no replayability too...so unless you are the kinda person who plays his single player titles over & over, you can enjoy MP games out there just fine again & again with a lowly 4870 1 GB. :roll:

Pretty much confirmed what I was guessing, thanks n7 for clarifying what us speculaters were arguing about.

Now for those wanting to play the absolute latest most demanding games out there fully maxed & w/ AA, a single HD 4870 1 GB is going to be in trouble.

Yes, real clear for me too, thanks

So .. still ... forget 4870 and 25x16

back when x1900xt was powering N7's PC he was complaining about it then ... and he would not DARE to run any NEW games on a 1900 class series card *today*
- letsee, that was '05 games right?

ANd your 8800GTX was last year. It was barely OK for me too - but i switched it out for 2900xt CF to play some games. It is pretty out of date now and struggling with '08 titles.
MMORPG .. yes, keep your old GTX .. even for AoC or Hellgate London
- if you play SP, then get a better card, imo

Whatever I said about the 4870 1GB goes the same for the GTX260. They are in the same performance class. AND I have repeatedly recommended either a 4870 1GB or a GTX260 for people playing above 1680x1050 on monitors that support 19x12..

The GTX280 I have easily handled all games I threw at it with maxxed settings and AA at 1920x1200, with the single exception of Crysis as per ususal. This leads me to believe the GTX260 and 4870 1GB can handle this as well. Even my 9800GTX+ plays many games well with AA at 19x12. Sometimes I have to turn it down a notch to 16x10.

so we're agreeing?


i too recommend consistently 4870/1GB or GTX260 as performance twins. And i highly recommend them for 16x10; and perhaps 19x12 if they are playing with "some AA"
- i also recommend my own GTX280 as having that little "extra" for 19x12
.. however, i like that little extra that CF provides over a single GPU; it has been that way for me since 2900 crossfire.

HOWEVER, when your GTX pushes 2.3 million pixels at 19x12, it is still nothing like the 4 million you need for 25x16
- even GTX280 is gonna have to strain for this one .. and that is why i personally recommend multi-GPU for 19x12 and over - for no compromise
- and of course, the new games get even more demanding

what is cool about having that "extra" .. and it is a coolness factor if you like it .. is exploring filtering at 8xMSAA and even above
- some people like physX .. others could care less and feel it is distracting .. to each his own and i expect us to have personal differences and differing recommendations

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: n7
Okay, wtf...

Guess what cards have powered my 2560x1600 30"?

First one: X1900XT 512 MB. Yes, that's right.
Second one: 8800 GTX 768 MB
Presently: GTX 280
Now for those wanting to play the absolute latest most demanding games out there fully maxed & w/ AA, a single HD 4870 1 GB is going to be in trouble.

But for the majority of games out there, as long as AA is left off or sometimes, settings turned down s lightly, a 4870 1 GB is going to be quite fine.

My 8800 GTX actually did just fine w/ 2560x1600 for all the games i played other than UT3 at maxed settings, where i had fps a bit lower than ideal.

But for games where you must have the details cranked & 2560x1600 is a little too much, you can always drop down to 2048x1536 or 1920x1440/1920x1200 & be golden.

The idea that you need CF or SLI or sandwich cards just to enjoy 2560x1600 is utter horsesh!t.

All those "top games" appopin mentioned are pretty much all single player ones with no replayability too...so unless you are the kinda person who plays his single player titles over & over, you can enjoy MP games out there just fine again & again with a lowly 4870 1 GB. :roll:

Pretty much confirmed what I was guessing, thanks n7 for clarifying what us speculaters were arguing about.

Now for those wanting to play the absolute latest most demanding games out there fully maxed & w/ AA, a single HD 4870 1 GB is going to be in trouble.

Yes, real clear for me too, thanks

So .. still ... forget 4870 and 25x16

back when x1900xt was powering N7's PC he was complaining about it then ... and he would not DARE to run any NEW games on a 1900 class series card *today*
- letsee, that was '05 games right?

ANd your 8800GTX was last year. It was barely OK for me too - but i switched it out for 2900xt CF to play some games. It is pretty out of date now and struggling with '08 titles.
MMORPG .. yes, keep your old GTX .. even for AoC or Hellgate London
- if you play SP, then get a better card, imo

Whatever I said about the 4870 1GB goes the same for the GTX260. They are in the same performance class. AND I have repeatedly recommended either a 4870 1GB or a GTX260 for people playing above 1680x1050 on monitors that support 19x12..

The GTX280 I have easily handled all games I threw at it with maxxed settings and AA at 1920x1200, with the single exception of Crysis as per ususal. This leads me to believe the GTX260 and 4870 1GB can handle this as well. Even my 9800GTX+ plays many games well with AA at 19x12. Sometimes I have to turn it down a notch to 16x10.

so we're agreeing?


i too recommend consistently 4870/1GB or GTX260 as performance twins. And i highly recommend them for 16x10; and perhaps 19x12 if they are playing with "some AA"
- i also recommend my own GTX280 as having that little "extra" for 19x12
.. however, i like that little extra that CF provides over a single GPU; it has been that way for me since 2900 crossfire.

HOWEVER, when your GTX pushes 2.3 million pixels at 19x12, it is still nothing like the 4 million you need for 25x16
- even GTX280 is gonna have to strain for this one .. and that is why i personally recommend multi-GPU for 19x12 and over - for no compromise
- and of course, the new games get even more demanding

what is cool about having that "extra" .. and it is a coolness factor if you like it .. is exploring filtering at 8xMSAA and even above
- some people like physX .. others could care less and feel it is distracting .. to each his own and i expect us to have personal differences and differing recommendations

I wasn't aware that we were "disagreeing". You seemed to accent the word *think*, as if to challenge it. Yes, others in here can think Apoppin.

 

[apoppin]

I wasn't aware that we were "disagreeing". You seemed to accent the word *think*, as if to challenge it. Yes, others in here can think Apoppin.

i just wanted confirmation .. you appeared to be taking a certain "tone" with me

i am not accenting anything .. i am challenging opinion as i have my own based on my experience. i am not certain why you even said that last sentence to me at all.


i give my opinion as my opinion .. and other do too .. it appears that either some of you do not like the way i give it or else you just disagree with me
- either way, too bad

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

I wasn't aware that we were "disagreeing". You seemed to accent the word *think*, as if to challenge it. Yes, others in here can think Apoppin.

i just wanted confirmation .. you appeared to be taking a certain "tone" with me

i am not accenting anything .. i am challenging opinion as i have my own based on my experience. i am not certain why you even said that last sentence to me at all.


i give my opinion as my opinion .. and other do too .. it appears that either some of you do not like the way i give it or else you just disagree with me
- either way, too bad

Well, delivery is an important part of expressing ones opinion.

 

[john3850]

I am a poor at typing so I just read your posts daily.
A few people here know there cards res. from real gaming.
The other 70% of people here never ever play online games.
It is all about Speed high res and candy.
70% of posts sound like the 1993 3dfx posts.

 

[deerhunter716]

512 MB prob can't AA/AF on the 30" BUT the 1GB 4870 is MORE than enough trust me from a user. I play all the modern and latest releases at 4XAA/16XAF and not a hitch. If the 4870 is the cheaper alt it will EASILY handle what you need. But if one of the Nvidia cards is cheaper than that will handle it also. But for folks to say the 1GB 4870 cannot handle it is just plain wrong.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: deerhunter716
512 MB prob can't AA/AF on the 30" BUT the 1GB 4870 is MORE than enough trust me from a user. I play all the modern and latest releases at 4XAA/16XAF and not a hitch. If the 4870 is the cheaper alt it will EASILY handle what you need. But if one of the Nvidia cards is cheaper than that will handle it also. But for folks to say the 1GB 4870 cannot handle it is just plain wrong.

Could you list all these modern games, res played at, and settings? I'm sure you don't play every single game at 2560x1600 4xAA and 16AF and have highest settings in the given game?

Am I wrong?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

I wasn't aware that we were "disagreeing". You seemed to accent the word *think*, as if to challenge it. Yes, others in here can think Apoppin.

i just wanted confirmation .. you appeared to be taking a certain "tone" with me

i am not accenting anything .. i am challenging opinion as i have my own based on my experience. i am not certain why you even said that last sentence to me at all.


i give my opinion as my opinion .. and other do too .. it appears that either some of you do not like the way i give it or else you just disagree with me
- either way, too bad

Well, delivery is an important part of expressing ones opinion.

for *all* of us, i would say

512 MB prob can't AA/AF on the 30" BUT the 1GB 4870 is MORE than enough trust me from a user. I play all the modern and latest releases at 4XAA/16XAF and not a hitch. If the 4870 is the cheaper alt it will EASILY handle what you need. But if one of the Nvidia cards is cheaper than that will handle it also. But for folks to say the 1GB 4870 cannot handle it is just plain wrong.

here you go .. an extreme PoV with some real "delivery"
- and completely out of touch with reality, imo

IF a 1GB 4870 is just enough for 19x12's 2.3 million pixels; and i would say "maybe not" from my own experience at "4xAA/16xAF for all modern releases"
... how is hell it is "easily handling" 25x16's 4 million pixels?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

I wasn't aware that we were "disagreeing". You seemed to accent the word *think*, as if to challenge it. Yes, others in here can think Apoppin.

i just wanted confirmation .. you appeared to be taking a certain "tone" with me

i am not accenting anything .. i am challenging opinion as i have my own based on my experience. i am not certain why you even said that last sentence to me at all.


i give my opinion as my opinion .. and other do too .. it appears that either some of you do not like the way i give it or else you just disagree with me
- either way, too bad

Well, delivery is an important part of expressing ones opinion.

for *all* of us, i would say

512 MB prob can't AA/AF on the 30" BUT the 1GB 4870 is MORE than enough trust me from a user. I play all the modern and latest releases at 4XAA/16XAF and not a hitch. If the 4870 is the cheaper alt it will EASILY handle what you need. But if one of the Nvidia cards is cheaper than that will handle it also. But for folks to say the 1GB 4870 cannot handle it is just plain wrong.

here you go .. an extreme PoV with some real "delivery"
- and completely out of touch with reality, imo

IF a 1GB 4870 is just enough for 19x12's 2.3 million pixels; and i would say "maybe not" from my own experience at "4xAA/16xAF for all modern releases"
... how is hell it is "easily handling" 25x16's 4 million pixels?

The delivery is there, but no data, which I have asked him for.
And, we know it's not. We need his list of games he plays so we can compare with internet site benches. If he comes up with 60+ fps in Crysis Warhead at 2560x1600 with 4xAA and 16xAF, we'll know he's fudding around.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Like I said, my X2 is probably the sweet spot for 2560 at the moment. I've only played COD 4 and WaW, and BF2 with it, and the only one that gives it trouble is WaW. I honestly think a lot of it might be a driver issue, and I've had a lot of issues with directx crashes, sound going in and out during games, and the game freezing on me. I'm on cat 8.12, so I'm hoping cat 9.1 fixes it.

 

[apoppin]

the only one that gives it trouble is WaW.

if you are talking World of Warcraft, ATi has had issues with multi-gup and its revamped engine. They said they hoped to have it fixed with 8-12.
- i guess "stream" was their priority ..

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: apoppin

the only one that gives it trouble is WaW.

if you are talking World of Warcraft, ATi has had issues with multi-gup and its revamped engine. They said they hoped to have it fixed with 8-12.
- i guess "stream" was their priority ..

Maybe he means Call of Duty: World at War?

I have had no issues with my 4870 Tri-Fire setup myself with that game on cat 8.12, but it would just randomly crash on me with cat 8.11

Dont know about WoW though.

 

[KIAman]

The OP only has to clarify the games and what resolution/detail/quality settings he is planning on playing and the answer will be clear.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: apoppin

the only one that gives it trouble is WaW.

if you are talking World of Warcraft, ATi has had issues with multi-gup and its revamped engine. They said they hoped to have it fixed with 8-12.
- i guess "stream" was their priority ..

Maybe he means Call of Duty: World at War?

I have had no issues with my 4870 Tri-Fire setup myself with that game on cat 8.12, but it would just randomly crash on me with cat 8.11

Dont know about WoW though.

You could be right

i do know there were serious issues with Cat 8.11 and WoW for X2
- but i do not like the game and stopped playing after the trial

i am currently playing [& loving] the now-free subscriber content for Hellgate London before they get taken down Jan 31st. It is now what the game should have been on release

AND i also play AoC but am taking a break to play Hg:L; the 4870 does not run the DX10 path and i am playing it on my GTX280

 

[uclaLabrat]

Yeah, I did mean World at war. MMORPG? ecchhhh