Does such a device exist?

[brikis98]

Right now, I want 3 gizmos:

1. A decent cell phone
2. An mp3 player (with at least 8gb of space)
3. A PDA, with calendar, web browser, email, wireless, bluetooth, etc

I would use these nearly every day, but it would be a PIA to carry all 3 with me, especially since i keep this stuff in a pocket or belt clip.

Is there any (preferrably slim) device that can competently perform all 3 of those functions? Of course, nice battery life, affordable price and a good screen would be nice too, but I'm not holding my breath... Or is it going to take a little while longer before these technologies are merged seamlessly?

 

[sswingle]

Verizon XV6700. Same phone with Sprint is the PPC6700. Full featured PDA/phone with windows media. Put in a mini SD card for your MP3s

 

[SuperNaruto]

yes.. but with really bad battery life...

my friend uses the T-Mobile MDA, has everything but doesn't last very long..

you need better battery technology

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Verizon XV6700. Same phone with Sprint is the PPC6700. Full featured PDA/phone with windows media. Put in a mini SD card for your MP3s

I have the sprint version. The max space you will get with the mini SD slot is 2GB. I wished this phone has a CF or at least an SD slot

 

[Czar]

I have a motorolla mpx220 phone at work, has everything you need (except 8gb space, but it has a mini sd slot). Runs Windows mobile.

Right now if you want 8gb of space you need to get a hd based player, which never have phone functions or anything more than a media player.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Verizon XV6700. Same phone with Sprint is the PPC6700. Full featured PDA/phone with windows media. Put in a mini SD card for your MP3s

thanks for the reply - that's pretty close... but only 128MB of flash memory and a less than stellar cnet review makes me cautious... i'm also not a fan of having to dump a ton of money on mini SD cards to hold all the music that i have...

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Czar
I have a motorolla mpx220 phone at work, has everything you need (except 8gb space, but it has a mini sd slot). Runs Windows mobile.

Right now if you want 8gb of space you need to get a hd based player, which never have phone functions or anything more than a media player.

i believe there's an 8gb version of the iPod nano, which afaik runs on flash memory...

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: brikis98
Right now, I want 3 gizmos:

1. A decent cell phone
2. An mp3 player (with at least 8gb of space)
3. A PDA, with calendar, web browser, email, wireless, bluetooth, etc

I would use these nearly every day, but it would be a PIA to carry all 3 with me, especially since i keep this stuff in a pocket or belt clip.

Is there any (preferrably slim) device that can competently perform all 3 of those functions? Of course, nice battery life, affordable price and a good screen would be nice too, but I'm not holding my breath... Or is it going to take a little while longer before these technologies are merged seamlessly?

You can get everything together but the 8gb, and affordability. If you're savvy enough, you can set up an FTP server from home, and listen to your full collection over wifi/edge.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Verizon XV6700. Same phone with Sprint is the PPC6700. Full featured PDA/phone with windows media. Put in a mini SD card for your MP3s

thanks for the reply - that's pretty close... but only 128MB of flash memory and a less than stellar cnet review makes me cautious... i'm also not a fan of having to dump a ton of money on mini SD cards to hold all the music that i have...

You're not going to find much of anything with a ton of built in storage right now. You could wait for newer phones that support SDHC, but until then, devices like the XV6700, MDA, etc are the best you're going to get.

You could also wait for the iPhones from Apple or one of Samsung's musicphones with large amounts of builtin storage:
http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/Pres...essRelease.asp?seq=20060306_0000237511

And CNet reviews are hardly worthy of printing out to be used as TP.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: brikis98
Right now, I want 3 gizmos:

1. A decent cell phone
2. An mp3 player (with at least 8gb of space)
3. A PDA, with calendar, web browser, email, wireless, bluetooth, etc

I would use these nearly every day, but it would be a PIA to carry all 3 with me, especially since i keep this stuff in a pocket or belt clip.

Is there any (preferrably slim) device that can competently perform all 3 of those functions? Of course, nice battery life, affordable price and a good screen would be nice too, but I'm not holding my breath... Or is it going to take a little while longer before these technologies are merged seamlessly?

You can get everything together but the 8gb, and affordability. If you're savvy enough, you can set up an FTP server from home, and listen to your full collection over wifi/edge.

Or you could stream it via Orb like I do.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Verizon XV6700. Same phone with Sprint is the PPC6700. Full featured PDA/phone with windows media. Put in a mini SD card for your MP3s

thanks for the reply - that's pretty close... but only 128MB of flash memory and a less than stellar cnet review makes me cautious... i'm also not a fan of having to dump a ton of money on mini SD cards to hold all the music that i have...

You're not going to find much of anything with a ton of built in storage right now. You could wait for newer phones that support SDHC, but until then, devices like the XV6700, MDA, etc are the best you're going to get.

You could also wait for the iPhones from Apple or one of Samsung's musicphones with large amounts of builtin storage:
http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/Pres...essRelease.asp?seq=20060306_0000237511

And CNet reviews are hardly worthy of printing out to be used as TP.

well, other online reviews didn't blow me away either... additionally, in my personal experience, i have agreed with what CNET reviews mention... not necessarily the overall score, but when you actually read through it, they make some good observations.

as for the storage issue... it's wierd that phones haven't come out with several GB of flash memory yet... the advantages seem very obvious to me, but maybe the added expense has been prohibitive in a market where price is (possibly) more important than, say, mp3 players...

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: Czar
I have a motorolla mpx220 phone at work, has everything you need (except 8gb space, but it has a mini sd slot). Runs Windows mobile.

Right now if you want 8gb of space you need to get a hd based player, which never have phone functions or anything more than a media player.

i believe there's an 8gb version of the iPod nano, which afaik runs on flash memory...

which is brand spanking new and I belive apple is selling under cost

8gb compact flash $299
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=353121&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

8gb ipod nano $249
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=460008&is=REG&addedTroughType=search


largest mini sd I have seen is 2gb
around $80
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=430897&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: Czar
I have a motorolla mpx220 phone at work, has everything you need (except 8gb space, but it has a mini sd slot). Runs Windows mobile.

Right now if you want 8gb of space you need to get a hd based player, which never have phone functions or anything more than a media player.

i believe there's an 8gb version of the iPod nano, which afaik runs on flash memory...

which is brand spanking new and I belive apple is selling under cost

8gb compact flash $299
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=353121&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

8gb ipod nano $249
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=460008&is=REG&addedTroughType=search


largest mini sd I have seen is 2gb
around $80
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=430897&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

i'd be VERY surprised if apple was selling ipods under cost... but i guess if they can make enough money on itunes, it's possible...

still, i haven't seen a smartphone w/ more than 128MB, which is nowhere near even the cheapest of mp3 players (i got a 512mb mp3 player for $20!)...

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: Czar
I have a motorolla mpx220 phone at work, has everything you need (except 8gb space, but it has a mini sd slot). Runs Windows mobile.

Right now if you want 8gb of space you need to get a hd based player, which never have phone functions or anything more than a media player.

i believe there's an 8gb version of the iPod nano, which afaik runs on flash memory...

which is brand spanking new and I belive apple is selling under cost

8gb compact flash $299
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=353121&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

8gb ipod nano $249
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=460008&is=REG&addedTroughType=search


largest mini sd I have seen is 2gb
around $80
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control...u=430897&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Of course they're not selling it under cost. They come much cheaper when you buy, say, 1,000,000,000 of them.

 

[bobdelt]

get the new treo 700wx from sprint... its phenomenal, much better than the 700w. Get a 4gb SD car, battery life is rather good and the device is just awesome.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: bobdelt
get the new treo 700wx from sprint... its phenomenal, much better than the 700w. Get a 4gb SD car, battery life is rather good and the device is just awesome.

wow, looks like a real nice device... but the lack of built-in wifi kills it for me

 

[Metron]

You'll have cellular EVDO wireless connection... DSL speed internet connection in any location that has a wireless signal (assuming you're in range of an EVDO cell tower). Sprint and Verizon both have unlimited connection plans of this type for reasonable amount.

WTF you need Wi-fi (which is a _S_L_O_W_E_R connection)?

 

[brikis98]

because wi-fi is FREE at work, at home, at my friend's homes and in dozens of locations (starbucks, airports, etc) through my work account

 

[Metron]

Laptop w/Skype FTW!

*edit* besides free wi-fi requirement wasn't in your original post.

 

[swtethan]

UMPC+ Bluetooth+Skype

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Metron
Laptop w/Skype FTW!

*edit* besides free wi-fi requirement wasn't in your original post.

haha, got a laptop from work too, but somehow, that's just not as fun to go jogging with

 

[UNCjigga]

We're testing one now with a 6gb drive, but I doubt it'll be on the market for another 3-6 months. One caveat--even though this one has 6gb only 4gb will be available for music (the other 2gb is reserved for navigation maps, POI and other content.)

edit: oops, forgot to mention this device won't have wifi either, but it will be upgradeable to Rev A.

 

[Metron]

Originally posted by: brikis98
Or is it going to take a little while longer before these technologies are merged seamlessly?

While you fail to list your desire/requirement for Wi-Fi, you acknowledge in your original post that you're looking for leading edge technology.

There are current cell phone devices like those previously mentioned, as well as others like the LG Chocolate (2 GB storage) and the newer models of the Motorola Razor (1 GB storage on micro-SD). No current devices meet all 4 of your requirements.

I doubt seriously that any cellular technology developers will incorporate Wi-Fi into future devices, since there is little economic incentive to do so. If you want leading edge technology, you'll have to pay for EVDO cellular access.

You'll have to either compromise on your requirements... or wait.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Metron

Originally posted by: brikis98
Or is it going to take a little while longer before these technologies are merged seamlessly?

While you fail to list your desire/requirement for Wi-Fi, you acknowledge in your original post that you're looking for leading edge technology.

There are current cell phone devices like those previously mentioned, as well as others like the LG Chocolate (2 GB storage) and the newer models of the Motorola Razor (1 GB storage on micro-SD). No current devices meet all 4 of your requirements.

You'll have to either compromise on your requirements... or wait.

reread point #3 of my original post to find the wifi ("wireless") requirement... i suppose it could've been clearer, but it's there

and yeah... it sounds like i might have to wait... the iPhone sounds somewhat promising, i guess we'll see...

 

[Metron]

Wi-Fi is wireless, however not all wireless is Wi-Fi... your criteria should be more specific, yes.

EVDO is wireless too.

For me, I have the Razor V3m(free after rebate and NewEvery2), with a 1 GB micro-SD (mSD I got on sale at Fry's for $35). I use the calender and alarms as my planner. I have internet, email, games (Need for Speed/Most Wanted), 1.3 megapixel camera, and MP3 capability.