Does sound get louder as air pressure increases?

notfred

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
I know that as it decreases it gets quieter, but does it work vise-versa?

Now... why in the HELL would it not work both ways? :confused:

lol :p

Seriously, think about it for one minute (these are hypothetical values):

Sound volume in room with 14psi air pressure = 20db

reduce pressure in room to 8psi

Sound pressure is now 17db

Raise pressure back to 14 psi

What do you think the sound volume is?
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
I know that as it decreases it gets quieter, but does it work vise-versa?

Now... why in the HELL would it not work both ways? :confused:

lol :p

Seriously, think about it for one minute (these are hypothetical values):

Sound volume in room with 14psi air pressure = 20db

reduce pressure in room to 8psi

Sound pressure is now 17db

Raise pressure back to 14 psi

What do you think the sound volume is?
Well, obviously, it goes back up. But I was wondering if above-ATM pressures would amplify sound to a higher level.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007<brWell, obviously, it goes back up. But I was wondering if above-ATM pressures would amplify sound to a higher level.

What significance does the number 1.0ATM have? It's completely arbitrary selected as a human measurement only because it's common around sea level on this particular planet. It really has no significance in physics.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007<brWell, obviously, it goes back up. But I was wondering if above-ATM pressures would amplify sound to a higher level.

What significance does the number 1.0ATM have? It's completely arbitrary selected as a human measurement only because it's common around sea level on this particular planet. It really has no significance in physics.

exactly. ATM is only a description of what we experience on most of the earths surface (well, the parts of it near sea-level as notfred said)
 

bleeb

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C'mon guys.. lets not turn this into another 0.9999... != 1 type thread. Use your brains.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
<blockquote>Quote
Originally posted by: notfred
<blockquote>Quote
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007<brWell, obviously, it goes back up. But I was wondering if above-ATM pressures would amplify sound to a higher level.

What significance does the number 1.0ATM have? It's completely arbitrary selected as a human measurement only because it's common around sea level on this particular planet. It really has no significance in physics.[/quote]

exactly. ATM is only a description of what we experience on most of the earths surface (well, the parts of it near sea-level as notfred said)[/quote]
I was referring to a normal air pressure in a room around sealevel, close to 15 psi. Sheesh.
 

spidey07

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this must be news to me. why on earth would sound pressure change depending on air pressure?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: spidey07
this must be news to me. why on earth would sound pressure change depending on air pressure?

thought about it for a while...makes sense.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: spidey07
this must be news to me. why on earth would sound pressure change depending on air pressure?
I'm not exactly sure, but does it have to do with the density of the medium?

Hmm.. question, what happens to sound in space? Would it be hard to hear in space? Impossible?
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: spidey07
this must be news to me. why on earth would sound pressure change depending on air pressure?
I'm not exactly sure, but does it have to do with the density of the medium?

Hmm.. question, what happens to sound in space? Would it be hard to hear in space? Impossible?

in space, no one can hear you scream? or something like that....:beer:

 

LongCoolMother

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Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: spidey07
this must be news to me. why on earth would sound pressure change depending on air pressure?
I'm not exactly sure, but does it have to do with the density of the medium?

Hmm.. question, what happens to sound in space? Would it be hard to hear in space? Impossible?

in space, no one can hear you scream? or something like that....:beer:

no atmosphere in space (practically a vacuum). theres nothing for soundwaves to travel through.
 

Yax

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Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
I know that as it decreases it gets quieter, but does it work vise-versa?

Hmm, so if we decrease the air pressure to the point where everything is quite, then increase the pressure back up, everything would remain quiet since it does not work vise-versa. Librarians will be thrilled.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: spidey07
this must be news to me. why on earth would sound pressure change depending on air pressure?
I'm not exactly sure, but does it have to do with the density of the medium?

Hmm.. question, what happens to sound in space? Would it be hard to hear in space? Impossible?

in space, no one can hear you scream? or something like that....:beer:

no atmosphere in space (practically a vacuum). theres nothing for soundwaves to travel through.

i knew that, just fooling around:p

 

Eli

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: spidey07
this must be news to me. why on earth would sound pressure change depending on air pressure?
I'm not exactly sure, but does it have to do with the density of the medium?

Hmm.. question, what happens to sound in space? Would it be hard to hear in space? Impossible?

in space, no one can hear you scream? or something like that....:beer:

no atmosphere in space (practically a vacuum). theres nothing for soundwaves to travel through.
That's what I thought.

So then what happens to the sound energy in space? Does it just dissipate a few feet or meters(or inches?) from the source?
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
I know that as it decreases it gets quieter, but does it work vise-versa?

Hmm, so if we decrease the air pressure to the point where everything is quite, then increase the pressure back up, everything would remain quiet since it does not work vise-versa. Librarians will be thrilled.
Sigh, I was just being inaccurate. I meant to say something along the lines if we increased the air pressure to double the current pressure (assume maybe... 30 psi from 15), would that double the volume of the sound? /me expects a volume vs pressure debate now