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Does software have anything to do with hardware?

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Originally posted by: Vee
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
So I don't understand why you voted no. IMHO.
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Because I strongly suspected the OP to be using a generalization in order to "prove" a correct point "wrong".
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I'm using a generalization to prove that generally you need software to coinside with hardware. One of my answers was not "has everything to do with" but was "has very much to do with" meaning that there are probably some instances where it doesn't but generally it does.

If someone else other than anger-raged, word fumbling beggerking wants to explain those rare situations to me maybe I'll understand his points better. Sometimes his posts are so fragmented and poorly written that I think I just have some trouble understanding what he means. I'm all for discussing this peacefully and logically instead of arguing with beggerking about what is a correct techinical term and what is a name. (Yes, he did try to argue that too).

Is there any case of software being able to work correctly without hardware? Is there any instance where hardware can function without any software? I don't know of such situations but if someone else does, please enlighten me.
 
Originally posted by: Vee
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
So I don't understand why you voted no. IMHO.
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Because I strongly suspected the OP to be using a generalization in order to "prove" a correct point "wrong".
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Whatever the op's motive it takes little context over the truthfullness or untruthfullness of the statement. But it was your vote I can't tell you how to make it. 😉
 
Of course! Every line of code in the software eventually gets translated into machine language that the hardware can execute for the software to even run.
 
Originally posted by: josh6079Is there any instance where hardware can function without any software?
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Yep, my friend made a digital clock that worked without software. He bought a bunch of and gates and or gates, hooked them all together with LEDs and he made a clock. No software required.

I want to say that most finite state machines don't need software to work, just input and output.


Heck, I could have made a very simple calculator that just adds and subtracts without any software.
 
Originally posted by: JetBlack69
Originally posted by: josh6079Is there any instance where hardware can function without any software?
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Yep, my friend made a digital clock that worked without software. He bought a bunch of and gates and or gates, hooked them all together with LEDs and he made a clock. No software required.

I want to say that most finite state machines don't need software to work, just input and output.


Heck, I could have made a very simple calculator that just adds and subtracts without any software.
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Ohh ya good example I hadn't thought of that one. simple electronics like door bells and the like.
 
Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: rbV5
Its a single card solution :evil:
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That's nice and all, but what card is a single card solution? We aren't talking about cards in this thread. 😕
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I'm talking about the thread that generated all you little girl's sigs of course, you know the one that doubled your post count...LOL.

 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: rbV5
Its a single card solution :evil:
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That's nice and all, but what card is a single card solution? We aren't talking about cards in this thread. 😕
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I'm talking about the thread that generated all you little girl's sigs of course, you know the one that doubled your post count...LOL.
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And posts like yours here is how you've acheived your count?

Its a simple question with simple answers, stop trying to derail the thread.

Keys, the digital clock would still need to have some basic data to run through it in order to function wouldn't it?
 
Stupid Poll but, Yeah they need each other to work correctly. Other wise you just get a little exclamation point in Device manager or nothing at all.
 
Originally posted by: josh6079
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: rbV5
Its a single card solution :evil:
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That's nice and all, but what card is a single card solution? We aren't talking about cards in this thread. 😕
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I'm talking about the thread that generated all you little girl's sigs of course, you know the one that doubled your post count...LOL.
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And posts like yours here is how you've acheived your count?

Its a simple question with simple answers, stop trying to derail the thread.

Keys, the digital clock would still need to have some basic data to run through it in order to function wouldn't it?
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Simple answers like the 714 responses to answer if the 7950GX2 is a single card solution which turned into a bunch of forum drama queens trying to one-up each other...mkay skipper😉
 
sweet, bring a flame war into GH. you think we're stupid or something? leave the trash in video or better yet, just leave.
 
Originally posted by: gersson
I recommend you put the skooma down... it makes you cranky.
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Nah, I'm jonesing 😛

I just hate these petty, stupid fuggin fanbois. Seriously, look at josh's sig and tell me what he's getting at? You really think he needs to ask people the OP? Seriously?

If you think so, then I think you should leave to.

This isn't suppose tyo be a little fuggin kiddie "he said she said" forum. Its pathetic that this is where its at.

Dammit, the OP takes his crap from video and starts posting it in GH and you tell me I'm cranky???? Ya know what, you should feakin leave. You're as bad as the OP.
 
Originally posted by: skooma
Originally posted by: gersson
I recommend you put the skooma down... it makes you cranky.
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Nah, I'm jonesing 😛

I just hate these petty, stupid fuggin fanbois. Seriously, look at josh's sig and tell me what he's getting at? You really think he needs to ask people the OP? Seriously?

If you think so, then I think you should leave to.

This isn't suppose tyo be a little fuggin kiddie "he said she said" forum. Its pathetic that this is where its at.

Dammit, the OP takes his crap from video and starts posting it in GH and you tell me I'm cranky???? Ya know what, you should feakin leave. You're as bad as the OP.
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I agree completely. In fact, I am hoping that the mods look at josh6079's sig and posts like
If someone else other than anger-raged, word fumbling beggerking wants to explain those rare situations to me maybe I'll understand his points better. Sometimes his posts are so fragmented and poorly written that I think I just have some trouble understanding what he means. I'm all for discussing this peacefully and logically instead of arguing with beggerking about what is a correct techinical term and what is a name.
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This is obviously a thinly veiled, personal attack against another forum member and shouldn't be tolerated. This is GH not the video forum, and crap like this is why I rarely post/read the video forum anymore even though it was what first drew me to AT all those years ago now.
 
Thanks rbv5, I thought I was going insane for a minute. How this crap is tolerated is beyond me.

And I know I shouldn't be replying in this thread as it bumps this nonsense again but, ya know what? I hope it goes a thousand replies so the mods will see it and realize what garbage is being posted.

I can (kinda) understand the mods attitude of "leave video alone" but leave the crap there if thats what you guys want to wallow in. The whole lot of you video fan bois could leave and AT would be better off. Go play elsewhere if you can't be civilized. :|
 
I would answer: and, or, nor but then I would be shown the door
For alas my hardware is soft without gates to draw

Down with 0 and up with 1 through door marked nibble
For semantics of binary bits does the EU and MS quibble

Altair goes click and transistor goes cluck
Wherefore the 0000 0100 goes for a byte or a bsod (diddachick) without luck

MMMMM Look at the pretty lights
Mommy what does the machine do?

"Silly rabbit," it blinks and quibbles when cards are punched (software or paper my man; software or paper is the plan!)
Lisa? Lisa? Are you home? Where is your parent (that nebulous precog Alto? Is it asleep? Click 0 for no and Click 1 for yes!

Ahh, Mr. Paterson how is your QDOS without hardware?
"I don't know I feel kind of Micro without it, you know? Kind of Soft."

Ahh, Mr. Kildall how do you feel about CP/M or rather how does the Mrs. feel now that IBM has flow the coop!
D'OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I such a binary stooge!

Da da da da dum dum dum
I write creative drivers just for fun.

Seriously, I would state that hardware and software can both act independently of each other in the strictest sense but their collaboration is what truly defines the computer experience in any real subjective (gasp that evil between 0 and 1 uncertainty principle; errr perhaps I mean both errr uh neither) experience in my opinion. What is the point of hardware without the software to interact with it? What is the point of software without the hardware to run it? (Computers explicitly in this context)

I need sleep
 
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