Does Ron Paul have a chance?

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Anarchist420

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He can't get the GOP nomination, but if he could, then he'd beat Obama in a landslide. The reason being is that Obama would look like a retard next to Dr. Paul.

Too bad Republicans like their handouts too much. These days, the GOP is just as pro-welfare as the Democrats. The best Presidents are actually 2 Whigs and a few Democrats. Lincoln made sure that his party would remain red.
 

Earthling01

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I voted for Paul in the Virginia Primary for the republican candidate for the 2008 election. Some may call that a "wasted vote" but things were pretty much decided by the time the primary process got to Virginia so as long as ANY vote not for McCain was going to be a "protest vote", I decided to make it an unmistakable vote for liberty.

This time around I'm for Gary Johnson. He comes off to me like a candidate who argues more from a practical viewpoint rather than an ideological viewpoint. I'd imagine he favors drug legalization across the board but he is just pushing in this campaign for what he believes is achievable(ie. just legalizing marijuana). With moves like this he just seems more pragmatic(and therefore potentially electable) than Ron Paul.

Also Paul keeps getting re-elected from one congressional district in Texas, which from his stands on many issues, I can only believe must be a very libertarian/conservative district. Gary Johnson is a heavy duty fiscal conservative who got not only elected, but then four years later, RE-ELECTED Governor in a blue state like New Mexico.

It's all well and good to speak about how Ron Paul will “raise important issues in the debate” but with runaway deficits from overspending and ravaging of civil liberties from the Patriot Act, things are going down the crapper in this country NOW. I don't know if either of them has a chance in hell of a)getting the republican nomination or b) beating Obama in 2012 if they get it, but I do believe Gary Johnson has a much better chance of doing both than Ron Paul.
 

airdata

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Should he have a chance? Yes

Does he have a chance? No

Put head to head w\ Sarah Palin, I honestly think Palin would get more votes just for being a women and getting hyped up to the right group of people back in 2008.
 

JS80

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Unless he suddenly understands monetary policy and realizes a gold standard is retarded, and his foreign policy is whatever it is now but adds "except Israel," he has no chance.
 

matt0611

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Out of all the republicans running I like Ron Paul the most.
The rest of them will basically be a third term of George W Bush. I hated GWB.

I'll probably vote for him in the primary as the field currently stands

The federal government has gotten completely out of control.
We spend way too much money and don't follow the limited constitutional powers that were outlined for the federal government.

I don't agree with him on every thing though. But I really don't give a shit.

So do I want him to win? Yeah. Will he? No, of course not.
 

brencat

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Anyone who thought launching a raid to kill Osama Bin Laden in the manner we did was a bad idea has no business being president.
 

airdata

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I think Ron Paul is more concerned about the self governance of the fed and their policies. You would have to replace the fed with a system that works better and tries harder to work for the american people and less on making profit for the people who run the fed.
 

JS80

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I think Ron Paul is more concerned about the self governance of the fed and their policies. You would have to replace the fed with a system that works better and tries harder to work for the american people and less on making profit for the people who run the fed.

If you understood the Fed, that's exactly how it operates now. The Fed doesn't make a "profit."
 

xj0hnx

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If he can't win his own party, how can be beat Obama for re-election?

There is a huge difference between getting the nomination for your party, and the general election. Getting the party nomination requires convincing your party that you represent them adequately, and that you have a chance to beat the other party. Once they have their parties nomination, they have the base's votes, then it's fighting for the middle ground/independents.
 

Anarchist420

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I think Ron Paul is more concerned about the self governance of the fed and their policies. You would have to replace the fed with a system that works better and tries harder to work for the american people and less on making profit for the people who run the fed.
The Fed gives all of the money it makes back to the Treasury. However, it's operated for the benefit of Wall Street.

What the Fed needs to be replaced with is Jackson's Specie Circular, the Independent Treasury System, and free banking (no legal tender for private debts, and the states or the market forces commercial banks not to embezzle.)
 

frostedflakes

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If he won the Republican nomination he'd have a good chance if only for the fact that ~40% of voters just put a check next to the R no matter who is running. Even if a lot of Republicans didn't agree with some of his policies, I doubt they could bring themselves to vote Democrat and would look at him as the lesser of two evils.

Of course the chance of him getting the nomination is probably slim.
 

BoberFett

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He didn't have a chance in the last election and he has less of a chance now. Republicans have shown they have no interest in actually doing what they say they want. I can hardly even blame the Republican politicians, they're just doing what's in their best interest like everybody else. It's the rank and file Republican voters that should be ashamed to be stupid enough to keep falling for the same Republican lies over and over.
 

Jhhnn

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Does Ron Paul have a chance?

Sure- the chance of a snowball in hell, rightfully so.