Does religion support the life of dinosaurs? Where do they fit in?

artikk

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Noah couldn't take dinosours with him on the ark during the flood(size, food required, etc)
 

her209

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Originally posted by: russianpower
Noah couldn't take dinosours with him on the ark during the flood(size, food required, etc)
That's why they're extinct! Well, the ones that can't swim anyways.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: russianpower
Noah couldn't take dinosours with him on the ark during the flood(size, food required, etc)
That's why they're instinct! Well, the ones that can't swim anyways.

extinct?
 

artikk

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: russianpower
Noah couldn't take dinosours with him on the ark during the flood(size, food required, etc)
That's why they're instinct! Well, the ones that can't swim anyways.

extinct?

lol looks like another delimma :D
 

Stojakapimp

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If you take the Bible literally, then dinosaurs could have existed before man. I forget what day it says man was created on, but saying "days" doesn't really correllate exactly to our 24 hour periods. Those could have been long periods of time. But that is if you take the Bible literally.

If you take the Bible metaphorically, then it's quite obvious that there is no problem
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
If you take the Bible literally, then dinosaurs could have existed before man. I forget what day it says man was created on, but saying "days" doesn't really correllate exactly to our 24 hour periods. Those could have been long periods of time. But that is if you take the Bible literally.

If you take the Bible metaphorically, then it's quite obvious that there is no problem

Days are days, they don't mean anything else. Genesis even describes exactly what a day is, so that arguement is thrown right out the window from the beginning.

That being said, there is a good chance dinosaurs and man co-existed.
 

QuitBanningMe

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Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
If you take the Bible literally, then dinosaurs could have existed before man. I forget what day it says man was created on, but saying "days" doesn't really correllate exactly to our 24 hour periods. Those could have been long periods of time. But that is if you take the Bible literally.

If you take the Bible metaphorically, then it's quite obvious that there is no problem

Days are days, they don't mean anything else. Genesis even describes exactly what a day is, so that arguement is thrown right out the window from the beginning.

That being said, there is a good chance dinosaurs and man co-existed.

Where does it explain a day? I have yet to find it.

 

Malak

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Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
If you take the Bible literally, then dinosaurs could have existed before man. I forget what day it says man was created on, but saying "days" doesn't really correllate exactly to our 24 hour periods. Those could have been long periods of time. But that is if you take the Bible literally.

If you take the Bible metaphorically, then it's quite obvious that there is no problem

Days are days, they don't mean anything else. Genesis even describes exactly what a day is, so that arguement is thrown right out the window from the beginning.

That being said, there is a good chance dinosaurs and man co-existed.

Where does it explain a day? I have yet to find it.

It's right in the first paragraph!

God called the light "day" and the darkness "night." Together these made up one day.

This is why that arguement makes absolutely no sense and never has.
 

Caveman

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Lots of ignorance here...

The original hebrew rendering of the timespan between versus 1 and 2 of Ch. 1 could literally be billions of years. Dinaosaurs and other things could have easily fit in here... If people actually educated themselves on the scriptures, they would see how the bible often serves to corroborate science, not limit it... And vise-a-versa...
 

Cobalt

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Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
If you take the Bible literally, then dinosaurs could have existed before man. I forget what day it says man was created on, but saying "days" doesn't really correllate exactly to our 24 hour periods. Those could have been long periods of time. But that is if you take the Bible literally.

If you take the Bible metaphorically, then it's quite obvious that there is no problem

Days are days, they don't mean anything else. Genesis even describes exactly what a day is, so that arguement is thrown right out the window from the beginning.

That being said, there is a good chance dinosaurs and man co-existed.

AFAIK it says that to God, a day can be thousands of years, I don't remember exactly where it is.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Caveman
Lots of ignorance here...

The original hebrew rendering of the timespan between versus 1 and 2 of Ch. 1 could literally be billions of years. Dinaosaurs and other things could have easily fit in here... If people actually educated themselves on the scriptures, they would see how the bible often serves to corroborate science, not limit it... And vise-a-versa...

Do you read hebrew? I am not the ignorant one here. The word is translated day 80% of the time in the bible. The fact that it is actually described exactly like a day supports this translation.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: cobalt
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
If you take the Bible literally, then dinosaurs could have existed before man. I forget what day it says man was created on, but saying "days" doesn't really correllate exactly to our 24 hour periods. Those could have been long periods of time. But that is if you take the Bible literally.

If you take the Bible metaphorically, then it's quite obvious that there is no problem

Days are days, they don't mean anything else. Genesis even describes exactly what a day is, so that arguement is thrown right out the window from the beginning.

That being said, there is a good chance dinosaurs and man co-existed.

AFAIK it says that to God, a day can be thousands of years, I don't remember exactly where it is.

Which has absolutely no bearing on creation whatsoever. What that verse is talking about is patience. God exists forever, so what may be a moment of our life is but a speck of existence to him. It doesn't mean a day lasts a thousand years, in fact it means a thousand years go by for him like a day goes by for us. Genesis describes exactly what a day is, which isn't a thousand years, it's one 24 hour period.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: cobalt
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
If you take the Bible literally, then dinosaurs could have existed before man. I forget what day it says man was created on, but saying "days" doesn't really correllate exactly to our 24 hour periods. Those could have been long periods of time. But that is if you take the Bible literally.

If you take the Bible metaphorically, then it's quite obvious that there is no problem

Days are days, they don't mean anything else. Genesis even describes exactly what a day is, so that arguement is thrown right out the window from the beginning.

That being said, there is a good chance dinosaurs and man co-existed.

AFAIK it says that to God, a day can be thousands of years, I don't remember exactly where it is.

Which has absolutely no bearing on creation whatsoever. What that verse is talking about is patience. God exists forever, so what may be a moment of our life is but a speck of existence to him. It doesn't mean a day lasts a thousand years, in fact it means a thousand years go by for him like a day goes by for us. Genesis describes exactly what a day is, which isn't a thousand years, it's one 24 hour period.
That's unfortunate, because under a metaphorical evaluation, there's at least some possibility of the Bible being correct;)
 

narzy

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I'm reading it right now, I'm at genesis 30 in the contemporary version. It does state that a Day is one period of day and one period of night to make one full day in the first 15 paragraphs of the bible. It actually says it repeatedly. Now where things get hairy in my eyes is when you read that mosis lived to be 936 years old. So that brings in to question how exactly time was measured.

Because of these time descrepencies it leaves a large portion of time open for pre-historic events and creatures.
 

Stojakapimp

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Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Caveman
Lots of ignorance here...

The original hebrew rendering of the timespan between versus 1 and 2 of Ch. 1 could literally be billions of years. Dinaosaurs and other things could have easily fit in here... If people actually educated themselves on the scriptures, they would see how the bible often serves to corroborate science, not limit it... And vise-a-versa...

Do you read hebrew? I am not the ignorant one here. The word is translated day 80% of the time in the bible. The fact that it is actually described exactly like a day supports this translation.


The sun wasn't created until the 3rd day. So how did they measure days for the first two "days?"

And by the way, I'm one who thinks the Bible shouldn't be taken literally.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Caveman
Lots of ignorance here...

The original hebrew rendering of the timespan between versus 1 and 2 of Ch. 1 could literally be billions of years. Dinaosaurs and other things could have easily fit in here... If people actually educated themselves on the scriptures, they would see how the bible often serves to corroborate science, not limit it... And vise-a-versa...

Do you read hebrew? I am not the ignorant one here. The word is translated day 80% of the time in the bible. The fact that it is actually described exactly like a day supports this translation.

I double checked. It's actually closer to 90%.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: narzy
I'm reading it right now, I'm at genesis 30 in the contemporary version. It does state that a Day is one period of day and one period of night to make one full day in the first 15 paragraphs of the bible. It actually says it repeatedly. Now where things get hairy in my eyes is when you read that mosis lived to be 936 years old. So that brings in to question how exactly time was measured.

Because of these time descrepencies it leaves a large portion of time open for pre-historic events and creatures.

No, people actually did live that long. You see the atmosphere was very different back then, and it blocked the sun's radiation much much better back then. After the meteor hit the earth and caused the great flood, it disrupted the atmosphere and that's why it rained so much. It even says after the flood that people didn't live as long, and that's exactly what happened.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Caveman
Lots of ignorance here...

The original hebrew rendering of the timespan between versus 1 and 2 of Ch. 1 could literally be billions of years. Dinaosaurs and other things could have easily fit in here... If people actually educated themselves on the scriptures, they would see how the bible often serves to corroborate science, not limit it... And vise-a-versa...

Do you read hebrew? I am not the ignorant one here. The word is translated day 80% of the time in the bible. The fact that it is actually described exactly like a day supports this translation.


The sun wasn't created until the 3rd day. So how did they measure days for the first two "days?"

And by the way, I'm one who thinks the Bible shouldn't be taken literally.

There was nobody to measure it, Man wasn't created yet :p But seriously, the sun and moon were made the 4th day.