For grad school I know for a fact they matter, and they matter a lot. I had a mid-level GPA at a top 25 school, and it was barely enough to get me into a Top 25 law school with a good LSAT.
So if you think you might want to go to grad school it matters. It also matters for your first job, and less than a 3.0 will kill you dead at some companies.
So if you think you might want to go to grad school it matters. It also matters for your first job, and less than a 3.0 will kill you dead at some companies.
Babbles
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I have never heard, or know anybody, that has quite experienced this and I think you are very wrong for implying that "this" is how it is done. In certain situations, sure it can be, but hardly for every job.
For graduate school, GPA is damn well nearly everything (in addition to GRE/MCAT/LSAT/etcetera scores).
It so depends on your field and it could matter for your first job, but after that I don't think anybody cares. It gets down to if you can do your job or not, and if you can't then they will find out pretty quick. People with great GPAs can be bad workers in the "real world" and people with low GPAs can turn out to be very good at their job.
Also to address other people in the "college doesn't matter" camp, I think that too is very wrong. It is not so much what you learn in college but it is the learning process of college that is very valuable.
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Yes. If you get straight Bs at Harvard, you're doing something terribly wrong. Grade inflation is rampant there, everyone gets As.
Secondly, there have been several threads here where someone lost a job or a job opportunity over a GPA requirement that the company was not willing to budge on.
Secondly, there have been several threads here where someone lost a job or a job opportunity over a GPA requirement that the company was not willing to budge on.
Grades are important. I was involved with screening new hire resumes at my office and we basically didnt look at anything under a 3.0
James3shin
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only if you're going for grad/professional school.
*****Experience is also a BIG boost. The grad/professional schools are definately looking for someone that has gotten their feet wet, just like the real world.******
*****Experience is also a BIG boost. The grad/professional schools are definately looking for someone that has gotten their feet wet, just like the real world.******
edmundoab
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Yes they do,
especially when you have a few candidates strong in other areas,
they certainly use that as a factor to decide who to hire.
And i have been on the receiving end of it.
especially when you have a few candidates strong in other areas,
they certainly use that as a factor to decide who to hire.
And i have been on the receiving end of it.
Yes, they do. And my 2.99 is making me quite angry, and it's all because I made the stupid decision not to go to a class for a month and a half, and not drop it (the scheduling was impossible for me and my commute - I had a night class that ran to 11PM immediately before it, and this class started at 8AM, and I had a 1hr commute each way for most of that timeframe).
i didn't know it mattered for the first job...you learn a new thing on ATOT every day 
but it's a definite YES for grad school. but you can always get around it if you have a decent GPA. if there's a professor at the university you want to attend that gives you a strong recommendation (and he professor teaches in your major), that can greatly help.
but it's a definite YES for grad school. but you can always get around it if you have a decent GPA. if there's a professor at the university you want to attend that gives you a strong recommendation (and he professor teaches in your major), that can greatly help.
My take on this is if you are pulling sub-par grades in college you are not learning the material in your courses and by doing so wasting your time in college. Getting poor grades in college can hurt you in the long run, but there's no way getting good grades can hurt your career. If college to you is simply an ends to a mean, there are plenty of careers that do not require college degrees that pay as well if not more than an entry level bachelor's degree type office job, and by pursuing those you would have an income for 4 years instead of paying tuition. And by putting some of that money into IRA's and such it will compound into a nice bundle of cash in 40 years.
For your first job out of school it is crucially important. Even if you have a good amount of experience, a similar candidate with a higher GPA will likely get the job over you. Bust your ass for a few years and it will make your life easier after that four years.
After your first job though, GPA doesn't matter.
After your first job though, GPA doesn't matter.
In the engineering field good grades are critical for grad school and first job. Experience - like co-op can offset that a bit, but the grades still have to be there.
ElMonoDelMar
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